Teflon and polymer fume fever

[Allan L. Gilreath, RPT]

Kristinn,

Yes,  I'm afraid you missed the point.  The original comment Larry made was
about Teflon being heated over 400 degrees F.  Paper (such as a cigarette
paper) burns at 451 degrees F.  That was the connection.

Allan
Allan L. Gilreath, RPT
Assistant Director - TEAM20001
July 2001 - Reno, NV
agilreath@mindspring.com
http://www.equaltemperament.com/ptg/
Director: Laura Olsen, RPT
Assistant Directors: Allan Gilreath, RPT - Gary Neie, RPT - Vince Mrykalo,
RPT - Dale Probst, RPT

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
Of Kristinn Leifsson
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:53 PM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: RE: Teflon and polymer fume fever


What does teflon have to do with paper?

I thought that teflon and other related polymers were tremendously stable.


And guys, better watch out for that fluoric acid.
Come on Larry, you sure about the flu like symptoms stemming from heated
teflon? :)

"He who shall be burned by fluoric acid shall suffer, for the fluorine
shall bind with the calcium ions facilitating neurological impulses within
the body of the aforementioned person resulting in death."   K.L.


Kristinn Leifsson,
Reykjavík, Iceland

P.S. Somehow I feel like I didn´t get it.




At 18:13 28.9.2000 -0400, you wrote:
>In other words, don't smoke while applying this stuff.  Paper burns at 451
>degrees F and small amounts of the dust in the air could be heated by the
>ember. (Thanks Ray Bradbury for that piece of trivia.)  I certainly hope no
>one still smokes around the customers piano anyway. <grin>  Seriously
>though, you might want to make sure that you burn shanks before applying
>Teflon.
>
>Allan
>Allan L. Gilreath, RPT
>Assistant Director - TEAM20001
>July 2001 - Reno, NV
>agilreath@mindspring.com
>http://www.equaltemperament.com/ptg/
>Director: Laura Olsen, RPT
>Assistant Directors: Allan Gilreath, RPT - Gary Neie, RPT - Vince Mrykalo,
>RPT - Dale Probst, RPT
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
>Of Larry
>Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:38 PM
>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>Subject: Re: Teflon and polymer fume fever
>
>
>I believe that when Teflon is heated, some fluoric acids may be produced
>which cause the flu like symtoms.  I don't see how a piano technician is
>going to use Teflon when heated to 400 C (750 F).  (Does any one know what
>temperatures automobile engines reach?)  Anyway, I could believe that the
>dust itself could trigger allergy like symptoms just like any other dust
>irritant.  Personally I try to avoid breathing any kind of dust, whether it
>is normal house dust, sawdust, or Teflon.
>
>Larry Beach, RPT
>Vancouver, BC, Canada
>
>At 07:26 PM 28/09/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> >This may have been discuss on the list before and I just missed it....
> >
> >I was using some fine Teflon power the other day and started to get light
> >heeded and sneezing it has never bothered me before the same happened
> >today on a different piano, it may be just a coincidence and I could just
> >be coming down with the dreaded lurg. (Flu)  So I had a look for Symptoms
> >caused by Teflon all I could find was
> >
> >http://www.haz-map.com/inhalati.htm
> >
> >Teflon Dry Lube Material Safety Data Sheet
> >http://www.pai-net.com/msds/tefdry.html
> >
> >WHAT IS TEFLON?
> >http://crystal.biol.csufresno.edu:8080/projects/94.html
> >
> >I am aware that the problem caused on the sites above are due to over
> >exposure to fumes when heated.  However, since the product we use is
micro
> >fine and could get into the lounges quite easy anyone know of any other
> >health problems.
> >
> >I guess technology will kill us in the end no matter what prevention's we
>take
> >
> >
> >Barrie,
> >
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