This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment OK, Bill. You'll have to give a dummy like me a clue. Temperaments = are one thing. Octave stretch is another. Jim Sr. said that you had done = "something" to your octaves, and that he liked it. What did you do? I = have found that the amount of stretch is a matter of taste; what sounds = pleasing to one tuner sounds noisy to another. So in the interest of = continuing education ( that holiest of grails which we are always on a = crusade for) clue me in. Please? Kevin E. Ramsey ramsey@extremezone.com=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Billbrpt@AOL.COM=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Beat Cancelers was alternative temperaments In a message dated 4/7/01 5:39:56 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 rbrekne@broadpark.no (Richard Brekne) writes:=20 You know Bill,,, I am begginning to understand that this is a bit = more=20 important then I origionally thought some months ago when I first = heard you=20 talk about beat cancelling effects other then in unisons.=20 You bet it is, Richard and you will not find out anything about it in = any=20 book on piano tuning, any course about piano tuning or in any class at = the=20 PTG Annual Convention. Now, how often does anyone *really* come up = with=20 anything *new* concerning tuning that is of any importance? I'll just = keep=20 on doing what I do until a few more people catch on to it and confirm = the=20 extraordinary effects.=20 I'll tell you about one person who did notice this effect way back in = it's=20 earliest days. It was none other than Jim Coleman, Sr RPT. After = hearing a=20 Baldwin SD-10 tuned in the EBVT with tempered octaves at the PTG = Annual=20 Convention in Milwaukee, 1993, he, at his age, literally bounded up to = me at=20 the conclusion of the recital. His words were, "You've done = *something* with=20 the octaves. I don't know what it is but I *really* like it!" = Subsequent=20 meetings where it was compared with the very best of ET tuners, Virgil = Smith=20 RPT demonstrated a *significant* difference which had undeniable = appeal. =20 There is a good reason for me *not* to enter into any more tuning=20 "competitions": I'd win them hands down each time against ET.=20 The truth is that it is so simple as to be *mindless* and it can be=20 duplicated and verified by an ETD but not through the smooth, = calculated=20 curve methods proposed by all of those program designers. You just = have to=20 make the effort to learn what I have learned to do by putting together = the=20 teachings of several of PTG's best technicians, including but not = limited to=20 Coleman, Smith and Jorgensen.=20 Go for it.=20 Bill Bremmer RPT=20 Madison, Wisconsin=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/6d/ed/e0/ac/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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