S&S tuning pins...

[antares]

There I can give you a more than straight answer :
I have a lot of experience with Yamaha people and they never say one word
too much.

Meaning : NO

Clever... neh? 

tell me about it ......hah! (I've had more than enough of my share)

friendly greetings
from

Antares,

Amsterdam, Holland

"where music is, no harm can be"

> From: Richard Brekne <rbrekne@operamail.com>
> Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:52:21 +0200
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: S&S tuning pins...
> 
> 24.08.2001 14:58:03, antares <antares@EURONET.NL> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Friend Brekne and Del,
>> 
>> You two asked me for an explanation in regard to my former statements?
>> 
>> I must disappoint you, I can not give a scientific reason. On the other
>> hand, I did not say why tuning pins bushings  influence the tone, I just
>> said they do.
>> 
> No disappointment... well perhaps just a little.. but I didnt expect to hear a
> science reason about this one.
> 
>> That I can explain :
>> 
>> My first encounter with this was may years ago during my very first visit at
>> the Steinway factory in Hamburg.
>> I asked why STW did not have tuning pins bushings and they told me that it
>> gave another tone..I did not understand it but just took swallowed that
>> explanation.
>> Then many years later in 1998 I did the Yamaha Concert grand course and 'my
>> instrument' was a prototype without bushings and it did sound much better.
>> the tone was more clear and open.
>> Since then all CFIIS grand have tuning pins without bushings and the do
>> sound better.
> 
> Well, I for one am pretty hesitant to simply discount direct observation
> (however subjective they maybe) just because something
> cannot be explained. I can be pretty skeptical for sure..... but its always a
> good idea to have this big wad of... "lets not be too sure of
> ourselves" in my back pocket.
> 
>> 
>> It probably has to do with energy not being killed by this 'collar around
>> the neck'
> 
> Thats the Circle of Sound allright... no doubts about it... sheesh I sure wish
> this one could be confirmed one way or the other. Got to
> thinking about this and the flagpoling discussion.... maybe the pins need to
> flagpole in order to be free enough to contribute to the
> tone ??? I have heard some argument along this line regarding how far the
> bottom of the coils should be from the face of an open face
> pinblock now that I think about it..
> 
> Pure speculation... but it would be interesting to see some facts. I wonder if
> Yamaha knows something they arent telling us. ??
> 
> 
>> friendly greetings
>> from
>> 
>> Antares,
>> 
> 
> Richard Brekne
> RPT, NPTF
> Sydneskleiven 1
> 5010 Bergen Norway
> mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
> 
> 
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