TlabPro tuning

[Dale Probst]

Bobby,
I've been using TuneLab Pocket since it was released and have had no
problems with stability. I also use TuneLabPro on a Toshiba Libretto
that I really like. Great programs and tech support from Robert Scott. 
Best,
Dale
Dale Probst, RPT
Ward & Probst, Inc.
email: wardprobst@cst.net
(940)691-3682 voice
(940) 691-6843 fax


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Bobby R. Sims
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:40 PM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: Re: TlabPro tuning


Has anyone tried TuneLab Pocket that runs on the Compaq iPaq hand held
PC? If so, is it pretty stable?  I heart  the pocket RCT wasn't
available yet. Also where might someone find a package like the one Mr.
Newell spoke of?

>I've seen laptop / TuneLab97 packages sold for as little as a  couple 
>hundred bucks.

Thanks,

Bobby Sims
sims-n-sons@ev1.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Newell <gnewell@ameritech.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: TlabPro tuning
>     Thanks for posting this method Jim. Perhaps I'll play with it a 
> little and post one of my own someday. Tuning is such an individual 
> endeavor as we all have our own tastes to satisfy. Happy tuning!
>
> Greg
>
> "Jim Coleman, Sr." wrote:
>
> > Here is the way I tuned my piano today. I thought some who own 
> > TunelabPro might be interested in it. It gives results very much 
> > like I like to tune aurally.
> >
> > TlabPro procedure  11-30-01
> >
> > After measuring inharmonicity on 6C's, go into the "T" curve 
> > adjusting mode by pressing the letter "T". Set Bass for 6-3 matching

> > with the drop down menu. Set the Treble for 3:2 matching with the 
> > treble dropdown menu.
> >
> > Use the 4-arrow adjusting method and press the up or down arrows to 
> > make the lower deviation curve a relatively straight line in the 
> > Bass and more or less the same for the treble side of the curve. 
> > There may be a
> > slight deviation from the straight line in the high treble but you
> > can ignore
> > that for the moment. Of course, the Tuning curve in the upper half
> > of the
> > "T" curve display  will sweep upward in a typical exponential
> > curve which
> > is a little like the flare of a trumpet bell.
> >
> > Press ESC to get back to the Tuning mode display and tune downward 
> > from A4 to the Tenor break. This will give you pure 5ths and will 
> > graduate into the 6-3 octave mode as you approach the Bass. Test all

> > aural intervals available to make sure there were no lapses in your 
> > eye judgments. If you notice any variations from smooth beat rate
> > progressions, recheck the display of all the notes involved.
> >
> > Next touch the "T" to readjust the Tuning curve. Change the Treble 
> > side to 4-2 matching. Now looking at the lower deviation curve, 
> > utilize the 4
> > arrow mode to adjust the curve in a relatively straight line. The
> > software
> > will keep the note C8 on the zero line. If the curve has a slight
> > upward
> > curve just to the left of the C8, but the rest of the line is
> > fairly straight, this
> > will give a good tuning at least up to C6. Press ESC and tune from
> > A4
> > up to C6. Take note of the value of the C6 tuning.
> >
> > When you get to C6 press "T" to get back into the curve adjustment 
> > area. Change the Treble side to 8-1 matching. With the up or down 
> > arrow in the
> > treble section adjust the deviation curve to a more or less
> > straight line
> > again and check the value for the C6 block in the upper tuning
curve.
> > Adjust the arrows until the value is the same as was noted
previously.
> > This should give you a relatively straight line again in the lower
> > display
> > with perhaps a slight variation within the top octave. A simple
> > way of
> > doing this is to place the cursor on the block representing the C6
> > on the
> > Tuning curve and then using the "I" and "K" keys in place of the
> > arrows to
> > make the adjustments until the C6 value is the same as before. Press
> > the ESC key to get back to the tuning display.
> >
> > This type of tuning in the treble will give a balance between double

> > octave tuning, pure octave 5ths, double octave 5ths and triple 
> > octaves. This will
> > result in top single octaves with beats of 4 or 5 per second, but
> > will make
> > the high treble sound more "in tune" melodically.
> >
> > Tuning down into the Bass using 6-3 octave matching works well for 
> > most all pianos. By the time you get down to C2 it might be well to 
> > have a little more stretch for medium or larger pianos. Note the 
> > tuning value of C2,
> > then press "T" to get into the curve adjustment display. Change to
8-2
> > double octave matching to get a little more stretch. Place the
> > cursor on
> > the note C2 in the upper tuning curve and use the "U" and "J" keys
> > to
> > adjust the lower deviation curve to make a more or less straight
> > line in
> > the Bass side of the curve so that in the value for C2 in the
> > upper right
> > corner of the screen you have a value very close to what you
> > remembered
> > from before the change from 6-3 tuning. This will make a smooth
> > transition from 6-3 tuning to the 8-2 type tuning.
> >
> > If all this sounds too complicated, whoever said piano tuning was 
> > easy, that's why they pay us the big bucks. Actually "doing it" is 
> > much simpler
> > than writing about it. Once one understands the principle, the
> > doing is
> > really quite easy for the experienced tuner.
> >
> > Jim Coleman, Sr.
>
> --
> Greg Newell
> mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
>
>
>