"I don't really fully understand what is the point in this thread regarding canned vs. FAC vs. inharmonicity changes. I don't think it really matters which you use because you should always be listening and adjusting to make your ears happy. I test a bunch of octaves right after doing my FAC or using the FAC that I had last time and determine my major Double Octave Beat offsets right off before I even start tuning. But I guess I feel that regardless of what ETD you use, you will have to have some means of evaluating the calculated tuning and then making whatever adjustments may be appropriate. Terry Farrell" Terry, I don't usually use the stored tunings except for a couple which work well on spinets. Adjusting as you go is one thing that I've been doing for years, and to my way of thinking gives me a result which is far more even and uniform than anyone can do with just their ears, (Flame suit on,,,,,,). But what if the width of the temperament octave is all wrong for the piano you're trying to tune with that canned tuning? Then you're going to find yourself fighting the machine trying to make everything fit. If I'm using a FAC, I can just go back and enter a lower or higher value for A, and change the width of my temperament till it gives me what I want. Of course, I'm using a SAT 11, so I don't have a DOB thingee, and have to do it all on the fly, which is no problem. If I were to buy a SAT 3, the main reason would be for the historical tuning feature. Kevin E. Ramsey ramsey@extremezone.com
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