Richard: I suspect that ETD's aren't the tool to measure or see what might be going on. A spectrum analysis of some sort might be the way. If there are indeed groupings of predominant (formant) partials being compared in the two notes of the octave, it would be necessary to see the entire spectrum of each partial set to see the match up of the selected groupings. Again, I think much depends on voicing. If the piano is voiced unevenly, i.e. partial sets being randomly dispersed through the compass of the instrument, then even this won't work. If one assumes, correctly, that all partials sound simultaneously (a still amazing phenomenon), then spectral analysis should show the formant grouping; how well one can blend one set to the other in an octave, i.e. how well one can make these two or three or perhaps four partials in the formant set of one note sound "beatless" with the other set of the other note is a psychoacoustic phenomenon of even more amazement. I still do not like the use of the word "beat" here. I still believe that it is a category mistake, that there is other language which would make the whole conceptual underpinning of Virgil's argument (sic) more palatable and open to a different kind of understanding. Thoughts? Paul Revenko-Jones
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