Was it something I said?

[Jon Page]

My favorite epoxy:
301 Epoxy Technology
Water Thin Epoxy
  (not cheap, premium performance)

My favorite mixers:
West Systems:
406 Colloidal Silica Adhesive Filler
410 Microlight Fairing Compound

My favorite leak containment:
Masking Tape

I swab the sides of the crack with straight 301 to let it permeate the pores
of the wood. Then I mix in filler to thicken and fairing compound to color 
(tan),
you could mix in saw dust if you prefer.

So far, I prefer to flip the piano upside-down and mask the 'topside' board 
surface.
This way, any shrinkage of the curing epoxy will be on the bottom of the board.

Better Living through Chemistry,

Jon Page

PS  I take issue with methods other than Bill Spurlock's routing method.
Afterall, the other methods seem to merely force the crack wider, compressing,
destroying the wood/cell structure and glazing the surface. No wonder I see
shims cracked. I don't want to duplicate previous poor woodworking procedures.
Not to mention the dry rot which we all know about.     Epoxy

At 04:52 PM 01/04/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Jon,
>Do you mix the epoxy with sawdust or use it as is?  I've got a soundboard
>crack job coming up, so I'd like to know the details.
>
>Ted Simmons
>
>I now perfer to use
> > epoxy to fill the void if necessary. Epoxy fills I have done twenty 
> years ago
> > are still good while shims have cracked.
> >
> > Reagrds,
> >
> > Jon Page
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "Greg Newell" <gnewell@ameritech.net>
> >> To: "Pianotech, forum" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:31 PM
> >> Subject: Was it something I said?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Greetings fellow listees,
> >>> About  a week agao I post this message and only had two people
> >>> respond. I really could use some more opinions so I'll try posting this
> >>> again. Please take a moment to respond. I really could use your advice!
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>> Greetings folks,
> >>>> I need the advice of you treasured people who are so kind to find
> >>>> the time to teach those clueless people like myself.
> >>>> I took in a piano for a customer who was having a property of
> >>> theirs
> >>>> demolished and needed to get the piano out in a hurry. She is having
> >>> and
> >>>> A.B.Chase (early 20's vintage) refinished, restrung, and action
> >>>> overhauled for her family. I have had this piano in my home for about
> >>>> three months acting as a big surface upon which to gather many many
> >>>> useless items. I recently was preparing to begin the restringing
> >>> process
> >>>> and took down the tension on all the strings and removed the bass
> >>>> strings. I plan to have Newton redesign the scale for this while ,
> >>>> hopefully teaching me how to do it for future piano I may inflict my
> >>>> talents upon. Since I took down the tension about a week ago I found
> >>>> something rather startling. What began as one very shim able but not
> >>> yet
> >>>> seperated crack in the board has now become 6 or more two of which
> >>> have
> >>>> separated from the ribs at spots and are wide enough to see daylight
> >>>> through. I would call the main crack to be about thick enough to slip
> >>> a
> >>>> thin guitar pick through. This particular one has the wood being
> >>> uneven
> >>>> on both side of the crack indicating it's separation from the ribs.
> >>>> Naturally this big one is right through the center of the board.
> >>>> I'd like the opinion of this list as to whether these cracks can
> >>> or
> >>>> should be repaired or is it time for another board? I've never left
> >>>> tension off a piano for this long before. Did I do a no no? If it is
> >>>> your opinion that a new board and bridges are necessary then how would
> >>>
> >>>> you go about telling the customer of this added cost? Do you know
> >>> anyone
> >>>> in the Cleveland, OH area of perhaps PA area that you can recommend to
> >>>
> >>>> install a new board and do a job I could be proud to offer? Are there
> >>>> any pitfalls along the way I should look out for? What could I expect
> >>> to
> >>>> pay for a board and bridges?
> >>>> I've only subcontracted once before and I got bit really bad that
> >>>> time so I'm really gun shy. Thank you for the time and effort to
> >>>> respond. I hope the coming days, months, and years bring you all
> >>>> continued growth and prosperity.
> >>>>
> >>>> Greg
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Greg Newell
> >>> Greg's Piano Forté
> >>> 19270 Harlon Ave.
> >>> Lakewood, Ohio 44107
> >>> 216-226-3791
> >>> mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > Jon Page,   piano technician
> > Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.
> > mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >

Jon Page,   piano technician
Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.
mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~