loose bridge pins/false beats

[Farrell]

Thanks for the even-handed post Del. If I had to guess the end result at
this point, your post identifies how it will end up.

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <pianobuilders@olynet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: loose bridge pins/false beats


> Terry,
>
> After reading all of the various posts on this topic....
>
> I think the manufacture -- in this case, both the manufacturer selling the
> piano and the manufacturer actually making the piano -- will tell you the
> damage (and they will call it 'damage') is/was caused by environmental
> extremes. And this with some, at least potential, justification. Whether
you
> agree or disagree with this decision will not really affect it much.
>
> Unless, of course, you can demonstrate that the problem is systemic to the
> brand of piano in question, which I doubt you can do. To the best of my
> knowledge this problem is not common to Kawai pianos -- the actual
> manufacturer -- and I doubt their drilling, notching and pinning procedure
> is any different with the Boston pianos than it is with their own Kawai
> pianos.
>
> I suspect in the end the customer will end up being responsible for any
> costs involved in removing the false beats you are hearing. And,
personally,
> I would have a very difficult time insisting that either the manufacturer
or
> the customer pay for recapping the bridge -- in fact, I wouldn't even
> suggest it. In general, regardless of who is picking up the tab, I am in
> favor of the least intrusive repair that will end up doing the job. In
this
> case, I would go with water-thin epoxy. (As opposed to CA which I don't
have
> that much faith in over the long haul, i.e., decades.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Del
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: January 15, 2001 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: loose bridge pins/false beats
>
>
> > "....apply CA to a loose bridge.....I have used this approach on old
> clunker
> > upgrights."
> >
> > Yes, I have no doubt CA can help....for some indeterminable
> > time.....maybe.....probably. And this might be a fine approach for the
old
> > clunker. Would you consider this to be an appropriate solution if it
were
> > your $20,000 piano that was still under warranty? This to me is not all
> that
> > much different than a loose wheel stud on a 9-month old car - except
maybe
> > you won't die from the loose bridge pin....maybe.
> >
> > P.S. my tone here is to practice for an anticipated upcoming
conversation
> > with dealer/manufacturer!
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> > Piano Tuning & Service
> > Tampa, Florida
> > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don" <drose@dlcwest.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: loose bridge pins/false beats
> >
> >
> > > Hi Howard,
> > >
> > > It seems to not cause problems. I have used this approach on old
clunker
> > > upgrights.
> > >
> > > At 09:54 AM 01/15/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi Don,
> > > >
> > > >If you apply CA to a loose bridge pin without removing the string,
even
> > with
> > > >the utmost care, won't some of the liquid wick around and glue the
> string
> > to
> > > >the pin causing some rendering problems? I've never done this so I'm
> > using
> > > >my imagination as this topic does interest me.
> > > >
> > > >Howard S. Rosen, RPT
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T.
> > >
> > > Tuner for the Saskatchewan Centre of the Arts
> > >
> > > mailto:drose@dlcwest.com
> > > http://donrose.xoasis.com/
> > >
> > > 3004 Grant Rd.
> > > REGINA, SK
> > > S4S 5G7
> > > 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
> > >
> >
>
>