sun-bleached lid

[Farrell]

Hi Jeannie. I'm sure Del is right that the lid is a poplar core with an
outside veneer. The poplar core is edge-glued panels a few inches wide -
much like a soundboard, only thicker. The edge-glueing has come apart and
someone placed 1x4s on the inside of the lid and nailed the lid panels
together (I assume these were placed on the inside - 'cause it might look
kinda ugly on the outside - pretty impressive when you open the lid I bet!).

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jgrassi@silverlink.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: Re: sun-bleached lid


> Chris,
> Was this the original lid?  What do you mean it was nailed together?  I'm
> having trouble understanding what you mean.  I'm just a little groggy this
> morning....not enough sun.
>
> jeannie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> Of Chris Gregg
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:09 PM
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: Re: sun-bleached lid
>
>
> Stan,
>
> Have you considered  veneering the lid.  It is not that difficult a job
> and you should be able to find a match quite easily for the piano.   One
> thing to check out first, is there  veneer on the lid?  I know that my
> model A  has a solid mahogany lid.  How do I know? Because it was nailed
> together with one by fours when I bought it.
>
> Chris
>
> At 08:06 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Golly Gee. I don't think Mark Cramer from Brandon University could ever
> >offend me. He was such a gracious host for our group almost one year ago
> now
> >while we played with soundboards!
> >
> >Anyway, NO. I don't have a proven method for bleaching out a lid. BUT I
do
> >have a work or two of warning. I have used a variety of wood bleaches in
> >marine applications. I have always used them on solid planks of mahogany,
> >etc. The bleach is really hard on the wood. Really blasts the grain out
> from
> >the surface, etc. You need to soak the wood pretty good usually. I would
be
> >a bit hesitant using it on a veneered lid. I would be afraid it would
just
> >chew the veneer right off.
> >
> >If you go that rout, you might try starting with a highly watered down
> >mixture and use it sparingly. You can always hit it again with more
bleach
> >if desired.
> >
> >Also, I know it is generally not a good idea to sand on a veneer much,
but
> >you might want to try a small spot and see whether a moderate amount of
> >sanding will get you through the sun-bleached zone. Often offending
> colors -
> >stains, sun-bleaching - don't go all the way through the veneer.
Obviously,
> >be real careful with this approach also!
> >
> >Who owns the piano? Did you tell them that all real pianos are finished
in
> >ebony???????
> >
> >Terry Farrell
> >Piano Tuning & Service
> >Tampa, Florida
> >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stan Kroeker" <stan@pianoexperts.mb.ca>
> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:11 PM
> >Subject: Fwd: Re: sun-bleached lid
> >
> >
> >> Dear list:
> >>
> >> Not sure what the protocol is for messages forwarded from
> >> non-subscribers.   If it doesn't offend you, then please consider
> >> sharing your experiences with the following refinishing problem.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Stan Kroeker
> >> Registered Piano Technician
> >>
> >> Mark Cramer wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi list,
> >> > I'm having a 1911 mahogany 'O' refininshed. The lid has been left
open
> >all
> >> > it's life, such that half the lid is red, and the other half blond. I
> >know
> >> > you've all seen this before, this is the vintage where the legs are
> >> > grain-painted.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone have a succesful (proven) approach for blending
(bleaching)
> >the
> >> > two halves?
> >> >
> >> > thanks,
> >> > Mark Cramer,
> >> > Brandon University
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>  http://www.cadvision.com/cgregg
>
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