sun-bleached lid

[Jeannie Grassi]

Chris,
Thanks for the explanation....I guess this morning I was really foggy when I
wrote that.  But are you absolutely, positively sure there was no veneer?  I
would have guess a Steinway that new would have been veneered even if it was
only 1 ply.

jeannie

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
Of Chris Gregg
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:29 PM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: RE: Re: sun-bleached lid


Jeannie,
	Yes, this is the original lid from 1900.  The lid had split and was nailed
together on the underside with a piece of wood.  Needles to say, it has
since been repaired, and you would never know.

Chris
At 08:41 AM 1/17/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Chris,
>Was this the original lid?  What do you mean it was nailed together?  I'm
>having trouble understanding what you mean.  I'm just a little groggy this
>morning....not enough sun.
>
>jeannie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
>Of Chris Gregg
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:09 PM
>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>Subject: Re: Re: sun-bleached lid
>
>
>Stan,
>
>	Have you considered  veneering the lid.  It is not that difficult a job
>and you should be able to find a match quite easily for the piano.   One
>thing to check out first, is there  veneer on the lid?  I know that my
>model A  has a solid mahogany lid.  How do I know? Because it was nailed
>together with one by fours when I bought it.
>
>Chris
>
>At 08:06 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Golly Gee. I don't think Mark Cramer from Brandon University could ever
>>offend me. He was such a gracious host for our group almost one year ago
>now
>>while we played with soundboards!
>>
>>Anyway, NO. I don't have a proven method for bleaching out a lid. BUT I do
>>have a work or two of warning. I have used a variety of wood bleaches in
>>marine applications. I have always used them on solid planks of mahogany,
>>etc. The bleach is really hard on the wood. Really blasts the grain out
>from
>>the surface, etc. You need to soak the wood pretty good usually. I would
be
>>a bit hesitant using it on a veneered lid. I would be afraid it would just
>>chew the veneer right off.
>>
>>If you go that rout, you might try starting with a highly watered down
>>mixture and use it sparingly. You can always hit it again with more bleach
>>if desired.
>>
>>Also, I know it is generally not a good idea to sand on a veneer much, but
>>you might want to try a small spot and see whether a moderate amount of
>>sanding will get you through the sun-bleached zone. Often offending
>colors -
>>stains, sun-bleaching - don't go all the way through the veneer.
Obviously,
>>be real careful with this approach also!
>>
>>Who owns the piano? Did you tell them that all real pianos are finished in
>>ebony???????
>>
>>Terry Farrell
>>Piano Tuning & Service
>>Tampa, Florida
>>mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Stan Kroeker" <stan@pianoexperts.mb.ca>
>>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:11 PM
>>Subject: Fwd: Re: sun-bleached lid
>>
>>
>>> Dear list:
>>>
>>> Not sure what the protocol is for messages forwarded from
>>> non-subscribers.   If it doesn't offend you, then please consider
>>> sharing your experiences with the following refinishing problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Stan Kroeker
>>> Registered Piano Technician
>>>
>>> Mark Cramer wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi list,
>>> > I'm having a 1911 mahogany 'O' refininshed. The lid has been left open
>>all
>>> > it's life, such that half the lid is red, and the other half blond. I
>>know
>>> > you've all seen this before, this is the vintage where the legs are
>>> > grain-painted.
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have a succesful (proven) approach for blending
(bleaching)
>>the
>>> > two halves?
>>> >
>>> > thanks,
>>> > Mark Cramer,
>>> > Brandon University
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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