Key Leveling

[Joe & Penny Goss]

Hey Roger,
Have you used your string level to check level <G>
Joe Goss
imatunr@primenet.com
http://www.primenet.com/~imatunr/

----- Original Message -----
From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Key Leveling


> Hi Terry,
>              Happy that your tuning went well.
> A good levelling job can only be done in the piano in my book. I no longer
> ever think of doing it on the bench.
> The front lip is nearly always irregular, so if you use a Jaras at the
> piano, it will follow the irragularities.
> Bench regulation is just a rough in, but close enough for rock & roll.
> You may have noticed Gina and I was emphatic in our articals about
keybeds.
> Like a house built on rock, it forms a solid foundation for every thing
> that follows.
> Solid bedding first, with out this level will wander. Good and solid,
> levelling next.  Refined dip and after touch comes much later in the
process.
> Roger
>
>
>
> At 09:35 PM 1/27/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >No sweat Roger, I respect anyone that calls 'em as he sees 'em. When you
say
> >that "Most key bed, front lips are less than straight" are you speaking
of
> >just the front half-inch or so where the Jaras aluminum bar would attach
to
> >the keybed? And when you say straight, are you referring to the keybed
not
> >being level from left to right, or are you referring to the fact that the
> >last half-inch or so of most keybeds may slope downward and toward the
> >pianist from the plane (hopefully!) of the keybed - and irregularly at
that?
> >
> >I have never used my Jaras device in a piano. I have always used it on
the
> >bench. A bench that is straight and level. But there still is a bit of
> >wiggle inherent to the rig. I guess I'll have to give the stick a try and
> >see if I do better with it. Thanks for your input. I'm curious as to your
> >response regarding the above questions.
> >
> >Terry Farrell
> >Piano Tuning & Service
> >Tampa, Florida
> >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: Key Leveling
> >
> >
> >> Hi Terry,
> >>              Sorry about the slur on you Jaras device, note the term
> >> device.  Key leveller they are not, took me quite some time to learn
that.
> >> Most key bed, front lips are less than straight, so the device just
> >follows
> >> that less than straight line.  The objective is to attain level key
TOPS,
> >> not an unlevel key bed.
> >> Set the height on the two end keys packed out with F/R heavy card
> >> punchings, and taped down to the action frame so they will not move.
Use a
> >> 48" straight edge to span the end notes. Level all the A's with the
long
> >> straight edge. then I use a 12" straight edge to fill in the blanks.
> >Double
> >> check with the long stick to finish off.
> >> Ultra thin punchings are availiable from Yamaha. I think they are
.0015"
> >> but metric <G>
> >> PS: the Jaras device is wonderful for setting glide bolts, but it will
not
> >> show you slightly tilted keys.
> >> OK. I'll crawl back under my favorite rock.
> >> Roger
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 05:11 PM 1/26/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >I would also like to know the popular technique(s). I was saddened to
see
> >my
> >> >Jaras key leveling device referred to with ill will. What works
better. I
> >> >don't really like the traditional stick method. Let's hear it!
> >> >
> >> >Terry Farrell
> >> >Piano Tuning & Service
> >> >Tampa, Florida
> >> >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Phil Bondi" <tito@PhilBondi.com>
> >> >To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:59 PM
> >> >Subject: Key Leveling
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> ok..what do you folks like to do a top-notch leveling job?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm questioning my own devices.
> >> >>
> >> >> roo(k)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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