Piano Fiasco

Don drose@dlcwest.com
Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:54:13 -0600


Hi Terry,

You should have researched the information before answering. We often don't
know current retail prices on all the many makes of instruments. Would your
answer have been the same if for example this instrument had one of the new
magnetic action retrofits? Or standwoodized? Or new hammers and shanks?
Please look before you leap.

At 05:20 PM 10/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>No. This customer specifically asked me what I thought the piano was worth.
>And I told her. There was no other reasonable choice in this situation, and
>I would do it again.
>
>Terry Farrell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "w peterson" <wpeterson2@socal.rr.com>
>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 2:13 PM
>Subject: Re: Piano Fiasco
>
>
>> I think a god point to remember is that a piano or PSO represents a dream
>or
>> is an object of sentiment to a lot of people. Every good home has a piano.
>> Most people never take care of their piano, and those that do  not want to
>> hear that they have been taken nor that they have a bad piano or PSO.
>You
>> the technician stand to loose the customer as your honesty has made them
>> feel foolish.  You will also lose the dealer, and some of the techs that
>are
>> in servitude to that dealer.  Whistle blowers almost always loose.  There
>is
>> a lot about biz that stinks.  Bill Peterson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
>> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: Piano Fiasco
>>
>>
>> > Hi Robert. Thanks for responding.
>> >
>> > > Recently a local couple sold their C-3 for I think around $15K which I
>> > inspected
>> > > and thought to be in pretty good shape.
>> >
>> > How old was it? Was I grey-market?
>> >
>> > Terry Farrell
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "robert goodale" <rrg@unlv.edu>
>> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Piano Fiasco
>> >
>> >
>> > > Farrell wrote:
>> > > <snip>
>> > >
>> > > >  A C3 now costs about $20,000. So figure hers might
>> > > > be worth somewhere between $10,000 to $13,000 at a dealer, and
>perhaps
>> > > > $8,000 to $11,000 in a private sale.
>> > > >
>> > > > She looked at me in horror and told me that she had just paid
>$19,000
>> > for
>> > > > the piano. She bought it at a dealer blowout - 50% off -
>> > > > going-out-of-business sale.
>> > >
>> > > I haven't checked recently but I think a C-3 runs closer to about $25K
>> > new.
>> > > Recently a local couple sold their C-3 for I think around $15K which I
>> > inspected
>> > > and thought to be in pretty good shape.  $19K is probably too high,
>> > particularly
>> > > when you can get a completely rebuilt (inside and out) plain case
>> Steinway
>> > M or
>> > > Mason & Hamilin A for a little more than that.  Yes, they probably got
>> > taken,
>> > > but I can assure you many more have been taken far worse than that.
>> > >
>> > > > Now perhaps it is not good to mention names
>> > > > here, so I won't. I'll just call the dealer (which I understand is
>the
>> > > > largest dealer chain in the US) Mr. B. Now you may ask why the
>subject
>> > of
>> > > > this post has the word "Fiasco".
>> > >
>> > > Nuf' said.  The dealer of which you B-speak is a Fiasco \:-).  I have
>> > heard many
>> > > sad things, even just recently.  The best thing that can be done in
>this
>> > case is
>> > > educate, educate, educate.  Buyer beware!
>> > >
>> > > Rob Goodale, RPT
>> > > Las Vegas, NV
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T.

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