This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment Tom, There was a time when I would tune spinets and consoles of beginer students with the Andreas Werckmeister 3 well temperament. My thought was that they would be mostly using the naturals and this temperment allows them to sound pure. The G3 to D4 4th is tempered, the A3 to D4 4th is also tempered. Mostly what I found was relief from tuning equal temperament day in and day out. Nobody ever said a word, good or bad about these tunings. When I first started this it sure was a challenge to hide my temperament sequence sheet from the customer. After all if they saw me tuning from notes my credibility would have been totally shot. Once it was memorized this no longer presented a problem. Perhaps this afternoon I will tune a few practice room pianos to the Werckmeister 3 and see what kind of response it gets. Tom try something different for a change. Venture out and yank those pins where you want them to be. Doug Atkins Registered Piano Technician Cedarville University 937.766.7566 atkinsd@cedarville.edu >>> <Tvak@AOL.COM> 10/18/01 09:55PM >>> In a message dated 10/18/01 12:34:55 PM, A440A@AOL.COM writes: << Consider that Chopin's music on a WT often produces a pure melodic line over a very tempered harmony. >> I think the key word here is "often". With Chopin's predilection for chromatic harmonic modulation, it wouldn't sound pure for very long. And since he wrote in all the keys, let's face it, some of his pieces would suffer more "often" than others with any temperament that wasn't equal. <<Both Steinway artists here in Nashville have told me they are never going back to ET >> I'm guessing that these artists are not playing Chopin in Nashville. Could it be that the country tunes they play in Nashville are mostly in the keys of C, D, G, and A? If so, then an un-equal temperament might really be best suited for them. (But for Chopin...you can't sell me that bag of goods.) I would actually like to learn a non-equal temperament that favors the keys of C and G. So many of the pianos I tune have young students who play the piano. They would never play an Ab major triad. They play mostly the white notes. On little spinet pianos. Little Betsy Ross spinet pianos. Wurlitzers, too...sorry, I was spiraling down, there... Would it be possible to use a temperament which would maximize the in-tuneness of all the white notes? Is there an un-equal temperament that would serve this purpose? Tom Sivak ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3019.2500" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT: 8pt MS Sans Serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px; MARGIN-TOP: 2px"> <DIV><FONT size=1>Tom, There was a time when I would tune spinets and consoles of beginer students with the Andreas Werckmeister 3 well temperament. My thought was that they would be mostly using the naturals and this temperment allows them to sound pure. The G3 to D4 4th is tempered, the A3 to D4 4th is also tempered. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1> Mostly what I found was relief from tuning equal temperament day in and day out. Nobody ever said a word, good or bad about these tunings. When I first started this it sure was a challenge to hide my temperament sequence sheet from the customer. After all if they saw me tuning from notes my credibility would have been totally shot. Once it was memorized this no longer presented a problem. Perhaps this afternoon I will tune a few practice room pianos to the Werckmeister 3 and see what kind of response it gets. Tom try something different for a change. Venture out and yank those pins where you want them to be.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1>Doug Atkins<BR>Registered Piano Technician<BR>Cedarville University<BR>937.766.7566<BR><A href="mailto:atkinsd@cedarville.edu">atkinsd@cedarville.edu</A></FONT><BR><BR>>>> <Tvak@AOL.COM> 10/18/01 09:55PM >>> <BR><BR>In a message dated 10/18/01 12:34:55 PM, <U><A href="mailto:A440A@AOL.COM">A440A@AOL.COM</A></U> writes: <BR><BR><< Consider that Chopin's music on a WT often produces a pure melodic line <BR>over a very tempered <BR>harmony. >> <BR><BR>I think the key word here is "often". With Chopin's predilection for <BR>chromatic harmonic modulation, it wouldn't sound pure for very long. And <BR>since he wrote in all the keys, let's face it, some of his pieces would <BR>suffer more "often" than others with any temperament that wasn't equal. <BR><BR><<Both Steinway artists here in Nashville have told me they are never going <BR>back to ET >> <BR><BR>I'm guessing that these artists are not playing Chopin in Nashville. Could <BR>it be that the country tunes they play in Nashville are mostly in the keys of <BR>C, D, G, and A? If so, then an un-equal temperament might really be best <BR>suited for them. (But for Chopin...you can't sell me that bag of goods.) <BR><BR>I would actually like to learn a non-equal temperament that favors the keys <BR>of C and G. So many of the pianos I tune have young students who play the <BR>piano. They would never play an Ab major triad. They play mostly the white <BR>notes. On little spinet pianos. Little Betsy Ross spinet pianos. <BR>Wurlitzers, too...sorry, I was spiraling down, there... <BR><BR>Would it be possible to use a temperament which would maximize the <BR>in-tuneness of all the white notes? Is there an un-equal temperament that <BR>would serve this purpose? <BR><BR>Tom Sivak <BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML> ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment--
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