Hi Richard, In the real world ET is impossible. Verituner probably does a better job of "following the jags" than RCT or SAT3, but both RCT and SAT3 create a "smooth curve". Try this Richard. Use RCT, SAT3 or tunelab for the temperament only, then expand the octaves upwards favoriting P5th's. Then check the top octave against what RCT or tunelab suggests for the curve. I suspect you will find it jagged and quite different than the smooth curve scenario. At 07:14 PM 10/27/2001 +0200, you wrote: >I keep hearing this kind of comment from Veritune users.... shall I say... >converts.. and it begs an answer to how this can be....how can it be that a >Verituner tuning is significantly better then a RCT, SAT, or other tuning aid >tuning ? > >There are only three really possiblities it seems... > >1. It doesnt really... its all in the users imagination >2. The hardware is much better (this seems doubtfull... or what) >3. The basic approach... (tuning algorithm) is inherently a better one. > >If the third is indeed the case.. then we get right smack into the degree of >validity the single partial based tuning curve really has, and also right into >one of the arguements given by ear tuners that really never has been >satisfactorilly answered. > >I think it may be time to find some really truely objective manner in which to >evalute tunings and do a tuneoff based on those critera... Not for the purpose >of justifying the use of ETD's or to do the opposite... but to learn more about >what a good tuning really is. > >Myself, after useing RCT and Tunelab for over two years now... I more and more >find the resultant tuning lacking.. oh its more evenly spaced (especially in >the treble) then I can do without great effort.......but that seems to be the >problem... that particular form of eveness seems to lack some character and >definition...some clarity... dont really know how to describe it.... but >leaving the basic idea of "how to tune a piano according to SAT and RCT" seems >to leave me with a better sounding piano. And not just according to my own ears >apparently...but thats another story. > > > > > >Isaac OLEG SIMANOT wrote: > >> I use the Verituner since 1 month. >> >> I find its use much more natural than other EDT I have used too (SAT II and >> RCT). >> >> The tunings need less tweaking, and a custom mode allow to define patterns >> you can apply to a model or a type of piano (did not use these yet). >> >> Never had a temperament problem (but + or - stretch) in temperament zone. >> >> The tunings are astonishing, even on bad scales pianos. >> >> Regards. >> >> Isaac OLEG >> >> > >-- >Richard Brekne >RPT, N.P.T.F. >Bergen, Norway >mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no > > > Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. mailto:drose@dlcwest.com after Oct. 30 mailto:drpt@sk.sympatico.ca http://donrose.xoasis.com/ 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK S4S 5G7 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
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