very simple (VT100 report)

[Joe & Penny Goss]

Hi Isaac,
Very good synopsis!
The A3 starting point is a very recent suggestion from the makers.
The VT 100 is in a state of development as are perhaps all the other ETDs
An update is comming very soon for the VT and will be able to be down loaded
from the computer.
Also tech support is available by computer as well I think by phone.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Isaac OLEG SIMANOT" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: very simple (VT100 report)


> Hello,
>
> Even if the manual propose to tune from A4 up , then from A4 down, I've
> never used that way and the VT100 always computed a good tuning.
> In fact I tune my usual temperament sequence, but before that I play
> (sample) all A's, the 2 break notes, the last plain and first wounded, so
> the VT have more information to begin with . This method too is in the VT
> 100 manual.
> In fact at every new note you play (and tune), the VT learns information
> about the spectra and uses it to compute the tuning.
>
> On the fly you can add stretch at the extremes or when you feel the need,
> buy going in the menu add stretch and add a value from -2 to +2.
>
> The VT display at all times (in fine tune mode) all the partials sounding,
> with their pitch and level, written at the left of the screen, while the
> actual pitch of the note is displayed too near the spinner.
> The spinner is driven by all the partials, those witch are stronger have a
> stronger effect on it.
> It can be customized in speed, so is the speed of the external display,
and
> the minimum rightness for it to appears. - possible to ask the spinner to
be
> driven by one partial only.
>
> You can even tune by direct reading, as I understand your question, that
> mean tuning intervals directly, based on partial coincidences. Then you
can
> have the spinner driven by any partial of your choice, then see what the
> other are saying, and even change on the fly the partial driver.
>
> The custom mode allows for pattern realization with more or less beats at
> different levels in the standards intervals ratios (octaves, doubles and
> triples), starting at any note and computed by weighting the strength of
the
> ratio vs. the others. i.e. you can ask for a 60% 8:1 octave at 0.6 bps
while
> having a 40 % 2:1 at + 0.65 bps since any note in the scale. I did not
> compute enough with that yet but that allows for much possibilities.
>
> The PR mode is not so evolved as in RCT, but you have a display with
> original pitch, final pitch with 10,25 or 33% added, and wanted final
pitch
> which is the Zero point on this linear display.
>
> The VT can hear inharmonicy while you are tuning the string (the pitch is
> moving), so he reads the piano while you pitch raise.
>
> Things can be better in tuning management, and the software for
downloading
> on a PC is on the way.
> Beside, the quality of the results are more than excellent, and the use
> while tuning is very natural to me (I mean the display is always something
> my ears can agree with)
>
> Historical temperaments are included, measurement of tunings too, the
> spectrum analysis in real time is very impressive, it is fast and precise,
> used it in voicing, like a toy, but true facts there.
>
> I hope this tool will make his way and have the success it deserves.
>
> Hope nobody is hurt, that was not my intention either.
>
> With kind regards.
>
> Isaac OLEG
>
>
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part
> > de Joe & Penny Goss
> > Envoyé : dimanche 28 octobre 2001 01:40
> > À : pianotech@ptg.org
> > Objet : Re: very simple
> >
> >
> > Leo,
> > The Verituner recommends tuning A1 through 6 and both strings at the
bass
> > tenor break and then tuning the first pass starting point is        now
> > recommended  A 3 to the top and G# to the bottom.
> > All through this first pass the tuner is munching away on the numbers so
> > that on the second pass the tuner is really packed with the best
> > information
> > for that instrument. The user can adjust to their preference the type of
> > stretch but so far the "average" gets it there for me. I do not like the
> > "clean" at all but thats just me! Havent tried the other style stretch
as
> > yet.
> > Please don't SHOUT I still have a SATlll or SATll for sale <G>
> > someone might
> > hear you.
> > Joe Goss
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <LHSBAND440@AOL.COM>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:13 PM
> > Subject: very simple
> >
> >
> > > SAT - LISTENS TO 3 NOTES AND SETS THE ENTIRE TEMPERAMENT
> > >
> > > RCT - MEASURES SEVERAL A'S AND SETS THE ENTIRE TEMPERAMENT
> > >
> > > VERITUNE - LISTENS  TO 88 NOTES AND ADJUSTS THE TEMPERAMENT
> > WITH EACH NOTE
> > >
> > > LEO SILVERMAN
> >
> >