Jim, I would be interested in your findings in comparing the amount of passes it takes for the Verituner and SAT III. Thank you, Don Palmire On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 16:39:30 -0900 (PDT) "Jim Coleman, Sr." <pianotoo@imap2.asu.edu> writes: > The following comment triggered me to write something: > > "I certainly believe...no I know that it is possible to learn to > out-tune even the best of ETD's...no matter how good they get." > > Virgil Smith has tried it several times. The net result is that no > matter which method is used if it is used by a well experienced > tuner, the results will be practically indistinguishable. > > Several years ago I wrote a program in Basic language which > attempted > utilize all the decision making which we use in aural tuning. The > program became quite complex. Many many decisions are made during > aural tuning when one compares all the possible interval > relationships. When these decisions are made in a computer, it is > nice, but when one tries to tune to the accuracy of .1 cents in > real time, the decisions begin to unravel for we are not able to > tune to the needed accuracy which the programs require. Therefore, > I came to the conclusion that tuning to a smooth curve is probably > the best that we can do because it at least gives us a target > which presumably will keep certain intervals smoothly graduated. > > Now if, in the case of certain poorly scaled pianos, we wish to > make compromises of one smoothly graduated beat rate in favor of > accommodating some other interval which does not graduate > smoothly, this is where artistic license comes into play. Here is > where the SAT III really shines because of its simplicity in > making these kinds of changes. Granted, if all piano scalings were > perfectly balanced, there would be no need for any changes, the > SAT III does very well. The SAT can do in one pass what the > Verituner takes 2 passes to do. For those who are specifically > interested in how, write me privately, it's too lengthy to > explain in this forum, but is so easy to do. Of course all this is > predicated upon a good hammer technique and acute ears and eyes. > No machine tunes a piano for you. Neither do ears. > > Jim Coleman, Sr. > PS I no longer accept commissions on AccuTuner sales. Don Palmire Euphonium The U.S. Army Band ("Pershing's Own") euphoniac@juno.com
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