Ron I do two passes...well...sort of, if the piano is at pitch; if a section needs to be corrected, this is done first. Then, one careful pass, then one to follow correcting as req'd. That's my standard tuning drill. A pitch correction is an entire pass before the tuning and costs extra, the amount depending on the state of the piano-$20-40.00. Paul Chick ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@KSCABLE.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: stability of pitch raises (Ron's question) > OK folks, > I got a couple of good responses to the actual question early on, but this > has once again wandered off into a series of answers not relating to the > question asked. The question was, and still is: > > ************************************************************************ > If folks are habitually doing two pass tunings anyway, and since they're > probably using an ETD that does pitch raises within a couple of cents of > dead on in one pass (as we read repeatedly), why would they find it > necessary to charge anything above the cost of a tuning for a pitch > adjustment? > *********************************************************************** > > I do, believe me, understand that it takes longer and is more work to do a > two pass pitch raise and tuning than a one pass tuning. I also understand, > believe me, that you can't do a substantial (no numbers, just somewhere off > pitch) pitch correction as accurately in one pass as in two. That's why I > didn't ask that particular question - nor am I likely to. I am, in > practice, an active tuner/technician, and live this stuff on a daily basis > so I'm quite familiar with the reactions of pianos to pitch adjustments. I > don't need the sales pitch, I'm merely asking for an explanation answering > my question. If anyone is interesting in clearing this up for me, please > read the question again and, if what you habitually do corresponds to the > question in that you (1) habitually do two pass tunings, (2) tune with an > ETD, and (3) charge extra for pitch adjustments, I'd like to hear your > reasoning justifying the extra charge. > > I also asked another related question regarding how those who charge for > pitch adjustments based on how far off pitch the piano is, determine how > far off pitch the piano is. I still haven't gotten an answer on this one, > which baffles me. This has gotten so much traffic through the years that I > was sure I'd get a veritable avalanche of cogent and clever methods from > those who habitually quote cents deviation in their posts about pitch > adjustments. How can one compute charges on something they can't define? > > Maybe it's just me, but I find honest answers to these sort of simple > fundamental questions to be far more valuable, as well as far more > difficult to get, than information on how to get tape residue off of keytops. > > Ron N >
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