Soundboard Installation & MC

[Farrell]

How long did it take GM to get the holes out of the side of the Buick engine hood? Why were they there? Not so different a thing, I suspect.

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Soundboard Installation & MC


> Dale, and Brian :
> 
> 
> >>
> >> .         Brian , Richard , Ron
> >
> >
> >      I almost hate to wade in and muddy a good discussion but I just
> > want to say Brian, that your statements are on the money. No body
> > thinks the thing retains crown. So I'll let M&H marketing worry about
> > their own consciences. Why this discussion hasn't arrived at the
> > following statement sooner I don't know.
> 
> On the contrary !!:) seems to me you two provide some clear waters in an
> already mudded discussion... and I thank you both for it.
> 
> Still dont know if that itch in my left rear side is quite satisfied
> tho.... I mean you give a decent enough reason for continueing to
> install the so called resonator..... would seem to me that from a
> marketing standpoint it would be just as easy to make use of legitimate
> reasons for the device then ones that are  << clearly false >>. And it
> would seem safer.  Then there is the unanswered cost effectivness
> question mark.
> 
> Still since virtually all of you discount the effectivness of this
> device as any kind of a arch support I suppose I will have to accept
> that as beef in lue of any reasoning to the contrary.
> 
> Thanks again for the topical replies.. :)
> 
> RicB
> 
> >
> >    To my mind any time you stiffen anything structural in a piano rim
> > you reduce the chance of energy losses which does what? It changes the
> > imedance,which,  simply put is a good thing in my book when it comes
> > to sustain and power.
> > As Del said earlier on "he has written about it several times before"
> > Just think the last time a paper clip, dead fly or slight buzz from
> > whatever on the soundboard has totally disrupted the energy flow of
> > the piano even at FFF. The piano energy system is very inefficient. I
> > heard someone say once that even a 9 ft.  concert grand played at FFF
> > is only producing about 1/2 watt of power.
> >     I think the resonator has merit as an overall tonal impedance
> > improvement device.It probably won't ever allow the rim to expand or
> > move that's also good right? SOO That's it ,that's all there is.!!
> >    I for one think the M&H guys would consider this marketing
> > justification in and of itself. It just seems easier to explain it in
> > a more dramatic and sales hyping kind of way to say it holds the
> > crown.
> >    Look It's like the government trying to Justify the income tax
> > scheme. The've been lying about it so long they now believe it
> > themselves contrary to recent improvements in information  and
> > constitutional law. They simply can't change there minds now,
> > otherwise it makes there predecessors look bad.
> >   Also the thing is probably not that expensive to make or install.
> > They make the rim in two pieces so drill a few extra holes and bolt it
> > in place, what's the problem.  Probably  $500  bucks.
> >   Just two more cents worth>>>>Dale Erwin>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >> Although I can't see any reason to think that the
> >> centripetal tension resonator would have any
> >> significant impact on crown maintenance, I don't
> >> necessarily think of it as useless either.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> In my primitive thinking, it ties together the
> >> various sections of the rim structure even beyond
> >> what the Mason & Hamlin's  massive inner and
> >> outer rim and beam structure goes, making it an
> >> even stronger (and more importantly at least in
> >> my mind) more rigid sub-assembly.
> >>
> >> By tying it all together, it would seem to me
> >> that stresses on a small area of the under
> >> structure would be transferred to other areas in a
> >> "share the load" kind of thing...  might even be
> >> an expanded version of the plate horn, where the
> >> horn is tied into the belly rail to add support
> >> to an already fairly strong plate structure.
> >>
> >> That's my general thought on it, and indeed
> >> opinion.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Brian T.
> >>
> >>
> >> =====
> >
> >
> >
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> Richard Brekne
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