Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?

[Farrell]

Not I Joe, because you Joe. I meant Hi Joe! When in Coarse Tuning mode, look at menu on bottom. Press Config. Zoom will be highlighted. Press Change to cycle through Medium (default), Wide view and Narrow view. Press Done to see what each look like. Basically, for pitch raises less than 25 cents, use Narrow, between 50 and 25 cents, use Medium, and for 100 to 50 cents, use Wide.

In that same Config mode press the down arrow below your red arrow to highlight Overpull, Bass, Plainwire, and Treble. There you can press the Next button or whatever to display only the Bass, Plainwire or Treble setting, or all three. I just leave all three on the screen. You can arrow down to the Bass or Plainwire or Treble thingee and set you desired overpull for each of these by one-cent increments. Pretty cool and easy once you have done it.

Also look up in your manual about the autostepping. There are about 480 modes to use that will help in various ways. I often use one for big pitch raises (let's say 150 cents). It will allow the machine to autostep up to the next note, but then locks it there so it doesn't jump all around.

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


> Humm,
> Have not found out how to use that function yet. I will look for it soon and
> report back.
> 
> 
> Joe Goss
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?
> 
> 
> > I Joe. I was also going to ask why you use the SAT for pitch raises when
> you have a Verituner. Are you aware that all three overpull percentages are
> user-designatable (is that a word?)? Also, you can set the pitch raise mode
> screen to narrow (shows down to 25 cents flat), medium (shows down to 50
> cents flat), and wide (shows down to 100 cents flat). That covers everything
> for me as I like to use more than one pitch raise pass to raise pitch more
> than 100 cents.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?
> >
> >
> > Kevin,
> > I do the bass first also but find that using the 25% raises the pitch way
> too far, often 10 to 15 cents above where I want it to be when finished.
> > The verituner has a program of 10% for the bass that gets the bass right
> on the money give or take a cent. But the reason that I do not use the
> verituner on raises of over is the view of the targets is not as easy for me
> to work with not the program.
> > For me just setting the SAT is easier with fooling the program to give me
> the over pull that I want and then letting the little green lights do the
> job. Yes I said green <G>
> > Joe Goss
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Kevin E. Ramsey
> >   To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:30 PM
> >   Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?
> >
> >
> >   Joe, glad it works for you, however, I find that the bass requires a
> twenty percent over-pull. Perhaps our methods differ; during a pitch raise,
> I tune the single bass strings and one string of each bi-chord first, then I
> pull out the strip and tune unisons by ear.  I'm also tuning the bass first,
> ala Sanderson. When I do a pitch raise, I do it with a SAT (Gets you real
> close, real fast), so I do the bass first. I can understand the 10% overpull
> thing only if I've already brought the rest of the piano up first.
> >       Please clarify.
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Joe And Penny Goss
> >     To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >     Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:46 PM
> >     Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?
> >
> >
> >     Kevin,
> >     If the bass is about 30 cents flat I want to raise the note about
> three cents sharp ( about 10% ) of pitch. So with a SATlll that raises the
> pitch 25%  that would result in too much over pull for me so I will set the
> over pull for 12 cents and roll the program into the machine.
> >     I take only one measurement at A2 to arrive at my over pull. Works
> very well for me.
> >     I use the 25% in the tenor and about C4 the 30% to the top then
> retune.
> >     On pianos 25% or less flat or sharp I use the Verituner 100 and its
> 10% bass, 30% tenor,
> >     and 36% treble and retune.
> >     Joe Goss
> >     imatunr@srvinet.com
> >     www.mothergoosetools.com
> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >       From: Kevin E. Ramsey
> >       To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >       Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:40 PM
> >       Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?
> >
> >
> >       >
> >       >     All wound strings: 1/5 (Example: You test 10 notes, or so, and
> find
> >       them
> >       > about 30 cents flat. You would set your ETD to +6 cents sharp and
> tune
> >       those
> >       > strings to that setting.)
> >
> >
> >           Here's another little brain saver:  What if you're pitch raising
> a piano and want to do a 20% overpull in the bass, and it's, say, 28 cent's
> flat. (let's see, one fifth of twenty eight would be ......... ah........
> ah........)
> >
> >           Take 28, and double it for 56. Move the decimal point over to
> the left one place.
> >
> >            5.6 is 1/20th of 28.
> >
> >           At least, that's how I do it.
> >
> >
>