Tom, didn't you read Dale Erwin's explanation? I hung all the rinky tink straps on the upper bar. The practice bar seemed odd but it must have stopped a lot of strangulations from the practice of Hanon's exercises. Worked just fine. I know he wouldn't mind if you called him direct. He is very knowledgeable about odd makes and models (he's been doing this a long time). Keith R kpiano@goldrush.com 209 728 2163 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Dickson" <td_tuner@hotmail.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: 4 pedals > Hi, John, > > I'm sorry my description and your view did not click. There is no way > that this is a practise mute - I'm all too familiar with them, trimmed or > not. > > This piece of wood is on a bit of an eccentric so that when the pedal is > pushed down, the whole piece moves to the left and then forward towards the > hammer shanks, just below the hammers ( maybe an inch or so). All along the > edge of the wood are 3 deep felt layers about 3/8 inch wide. Each layer > corresponds to the length of the appropriate set of hammers. So, I knew > that the hammer shanks had to hit the felt. The question was are the > hammers supposed to then hit the strings or not. > > Don Rose discussed this a little with me, just today, and I agree with > him that given age and wear factors, it might be best to not regulate this > to do either of the possible functions as the impact at the shank might be > detrimental to several parts of the hammer assembly. > > Anyway, it sounds like you have a clearer picture of the mechanism thanks > to Craig. Sorry my description didn't do the trick! > > We'll talk again. > > Sincerely, > Tom Dickson > > > > >From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca> > >Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org > >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > >Subject: Re: 4 pedals > >Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:23:17 -0300 > > > >Great learning tool, this list. > >I had never seen the mechanism, as yet. When I do, I will, now know > >how it works. > >Regards, > >John M. Ross > >Windsor, Nova Scotia. > >jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Craig Glasser" <cglasser@hotmail.com> > >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:14 AM > >Subject: Re: 4 pedals > > > > > >| I have a 1895 Geo. P. Bent "Crown" upright. On this piano the > >fourth pedal > >| is called a "practice clavier". It is intended to allow one to > >practice > >| playing and not make much noise. So, on mine, the practice clavier > >prevents > >| the hammers from striking the keys. > >| > >| ----- Original Message ----- > >| From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca> > >| To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > >| Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:08 AM > >| Subject: Re: 4 pedals > >| > >| > >| > Hi Tom, > >| > I think it is a practise mute, that the felt overhang has been > >removed > >| > from. The reason the hammer shanks hit it, is because the hammers > >are > >| > worn, or have been carded, changing their length. > >| > Regards, > >| > John M. Ross > >| > Windsor, Nova Scotia. > >| > jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca > >| > ----- Original Message ----- > >| > From: "Tom Dickson" <td_tuner@hotmail.com> > >| > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > >| > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:30 PM > >| > Subject: 4 pedals > >| > > >| > > >| > | Hi, Folks, > >| > | > >| > | I floated this "balloon" earlier this week, but I still have > >not > >| > gotten a > >| > | totally satisfactory answer. > >| > | > >| > | A 1905 Bell piano has 4 pedals. John told me about the third > >| > one - a > >| > | "rinky-dink" effect for the sound (leather stips go between the > >| > strings and > >| > | the hammer). Very much appreciated! > >| > | > >| > | The 4th pedal moves a stick that is below the hammers and > >| > apparently the > >| > | shanks hit ( it has thick felt that is in the lengths to affect > >all > >| > shanks). > >| > | My question is: Should this be regulated so that the hammer > >| > impact is > >| > | reduced - therefore the volume is much lower, OR should this be > >| > regulated so > >| > | that the hammers never hit the strings - such that the pianist > >can > >| > practice > >| > | fingering, but make no sound? > >| > | > >| > | I would like to be sure that my reguation of this device is > >| > correct. > >| > | > >| > | Any help would be appreciated! > >| > | > >| > | Sincerely, > >| > | Tom Dickson, > >| > | Regina, SK, Canada > >| > | > >| > | > >_________________________________________________________________ > >| > | Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > >| > http://mobile.msn.com > >| > | > >| > | > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| > >| > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > >
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