Wim/Pitch raise experiment

[Farrell]

I would not raise the pitch. If they would not assume risk for tuning, I
would not tune. Time for a walk!

Terry Farrell

----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Porritt" <dm.porritt@verizon.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Wim/Pitch raise experiment


> Greg:
>
> What do you do if the customer (you do warn them ahead of time what
> _could_ happen, don't you) won't assume that risk?  Do you raise the
> pitch and if a string breaks, replace it free?
>
> dave
>
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>
> On 1/9/02 at 5:29 PM Greg Newell wrote:
>
> >Dave, Wim and list,
> >    You may wish to start lubricating the strings with Protek CPL
> before
> >tuning these old beasts. I'm with Joe on this one. What good is a
> piano
> >that's perpetually flat in pitch? Isn't ear training just as
> important as
> >finger training? I raise pitch on these old beasties all the time.
> They
> >have all come through just fine without so much as a whimper. I'm
> sure
> >your also aware of how much livelier they sound when up to the pitch
> they
> >were designed for. Never fails to get a "WOW" from the customer.
> >    my two cents.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >"David M. Porritt" wrote:
> >
> >> Joe:
> >>
> >> What about the customer who doesn't want to take the chance on
> >> breaking strings.  I did a Cable spinet last week that was down,
> >> already had 3 broken strings and the customer (rightfully) didn't
> >> want to spend any more on it than necessary.  Should I tell her to
> >> forget about her recently started piano lessons and trash the
> piano?
> >> Or offer to bring it up, break some strings and fix them at my
> >> expense?
> >>
> >> Some of our dogmatic rules ocaisionally have to get modified out
> in
> >> the "real world".
> >>
> >> dave
> >>
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> >>
> >> On 1/9/02 at 11:08 AM Joseph Garrett wrote:
> >>
> >> >Wim,
> >> >You are such a woose! "Why chance it"?!! to get the piano at
> pitch
> >> and have
> >> >the tuning be more effective and relevant to making MUSIC! I
> >> maintain, if
> >> >the piano, (the whole piano), cannot be tuned to standard pitch
> or
> >> it's
> >> >designed pitch, then it needs, either to be repaired or trashed.
> >> It's just
> >> >that simple. Any tuner that, without total knowledge of the
> >> customers
> >> >needs,
> >> >(current and future), tunes a piano a 1/2 tone flat, usually
> because
> >> he
> >> >doesn't want a string to break, is not a good tech IMO. This is
> >> usually
> >> >because that tooner does not carry any string stock, etc. and
> >> besides,
> >> >usually couldn't fix a hang nail w/o drawing major blood.
> >> >Just MHO.
> >> >Joe Garrett, RPT
> >>
> >>
> >> _____________________________
> >> David M. Porritt
> >> dporritt@mail.smu.edu
> >> Meadows School of the Arts
> >> Southern Methodist University
> >> Dallas, TX 75275
> >> _____________________________
> >
> >--
> >Greg Newell
> >mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
>
>
> _____________________________
> David M. Porritt
> dporritt@mail.smu.edu
> Meadows School of the Arts
> Southern Methodist University
> Dallas, TX 75275
> _____________________________
>