CA Glue / Pin tightner

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Hi Keith,
I think it is from the bridge being just a little stiffer. The glue does
take up a volume of space in the bridge itself and most likely moves the
termination point making the string just a tad shorter,  perhaps a
.00000000000000001mm but I have found a slight rise after applying CA.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <kpiano@goldrush.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: CA Glue / Pin tightner


> Joe, as I said in previous post, CA glue acts more to size the hole. It is
not a good
> filler for cracks as it's strength by itself is not near that of epoxy and
tends to be
> brittle as Mr jolly pointed out. As a glue sizer I think CA is great as it
has good
> wicking properties. I'm still wondering why the treble goes sharp when you
use it on the
> whole bridge. Does it make the whole bridge swell up?
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> Keith
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> > Keith,
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> > As long as you have the CA in hand ( it will work the best on tightening
the
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> > pins where the west system will not ) you might consider doing the bass
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> > bridge with CA as well. Here I use my tipper at a 45% and fill each
hole,
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> > crack or whatever till it is almost to run at each bridge pin and move
on to
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> > the next pin.
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> > I find thar treating each pin twice works best followed by the
activator.
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> > The activator seems to swell the glue just a tad ( would not use
activcator
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> > on a grand due to whitish color that results from too much activator )
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> > hopefully holding the pin better.
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> > Use something like a newspaper to shield the wrapings from activator
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> > contamination.
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> > CA to the rescue <G>
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> > Joe Goss
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> > imatunr@srvinet.com
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> > www.mothergoosetools.com
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: <kpiano@goldrush.com>
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> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
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> > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:26 PM
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> > Subject: Re: CA Glue / Pin tightner
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> > > I was told that CA glue works well after pin tightner. I'm going to
find
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> > out this week as
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> > > I'm going to try CA on a piano That pin tite was used. Also I'm going
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> > use the West
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> > > system epoxy on bass bridge pins with cracks around them. I'll give a
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> > report at the end of
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> > > the week.
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> > > Keith R
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> > > > Joe e.a.,
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> > > > Thans for the reply.
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> > > > What i was wandering about, is if the ca glue would hold on the
sticky
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> > > > mess left by the formerly use of pin tightner?
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> > > > Maybe that's a bizare question but if there wasn't been pin tightner
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> > > > used formerly , i would have repin the piano with pins a few sizes
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> > > > larger.
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> > > > Pierre Gevaert
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> > > > Belgium
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> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
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> > > >   From: Joe And Penny Goss
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> > > >   To: pianotech@ptg.org
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> > > >   Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:42 PM
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> > > >   Subject: Re: CA Glue / Pin tightner
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> > > >   Pierre,
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> > > >   It has been my experience that the CA glue will make the piano
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> > > > tunable. But consider it the last rites for that piano unless you
plan
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> > > > on restringing and installing a new block in the future.
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> > > >   So far I have only used CA on terminal patients. Not on pianos of
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> > > > great value.
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> > > >   Joe Goss
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> > > >   imatunr@srvinet.com
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> > > >   www.mothergoosetools.com
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> > > >     ----- Original Message -----
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> > > >     From: Gevaert Pierre
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> > > >     To: pianotech@ptg.org
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> > > >     Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 9:19 AM
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> > > >     Subject: CA Glue / Pin tightner
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> > > >     Hi list,
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> > > >     I'd like to experiment with ca glue on an old piano witch has
lose
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> > > > tuning pins.
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> > > >     This piano has already been treated with pin tightner a few
years
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> > > > ago. (pins still a little to loose)
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> > > >     Suposing that it is not possible to put new pins because the
former
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> > > > use of this stuff called pin tightner.
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> > > >     I was wandering what would be the reaction/effect of the ca glue
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> > > > versus pin tightner.
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> > > >     Any comments?
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> > > >     Thanks,
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> > > >     Pierre Gevaert
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