Why do you want to settle unisons during a pitch raise? Paul Chick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac OLEG SIMANOT" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 2:15 AM Subject: RE: Muting high treble > > I usually tune unisons as I go, but for PR where I use the strip method, so > the pass is the fastest , thanks to J. Coleman video where he PR a U3 I > guess in 12 min. > > I suspect the PR with unissons tuning is better and stable, but I am always > reluctant to begin to tune at A0 without any control on temperament before. > Beside, the rare times I've done it it worked as a charm. Problem is that it > is boring to PR and tune unissons at the same time, so the strip method > allows me to make it quick and dirty as wanted, and not to loose time by > settling unissons as i go up the scale while PR (that I can't stand doing > even if I don't want to !) > > Regards > > Isaac > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part > > de David Love > > Envoyé : samedi 23 mars 2002 21:26 > > À : pianotech@ptg.org > > Objet : Re: Muting high treble > > > > > > I think you are better off tuning unisons as you go anyway. If you are > > setting the temperament aurally and need to use a mute strip for the > > temperament octave (or two) then pull the unisons after setting the > > temperament and tune unisons as you go the rest of the way. I think it > > makes for better stability. > > > > David Love > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Isaac OLEG SIMANOT" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: March 23, 2002 11:30 AM > > Subject: RE: Muting high treble > > > > > > > > > > > > > On some pianos the coupling effect put the unisson sharp after 1 second > > > ringing. the EDT will read an unison sharper than the one string alone > > > sounding, because you have to wait to have a clear pattern. > > > > > > That can depend of the way the unisons are done too. > > > > > > > > > Isaac OLEG > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org > [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part > > > de Don > > > Envoye : samedi 23 mars 2002 07:30 > > > A : pianotech@ptg.org > > > Objet : Re: Muting high treble > > > > > > > > > Hi Jay, > > > > > > I have tried to measure the effect you are speaking of. It would be rare > > > for it to be as large 2 cents and it is inconsistant from piano to piano > > > even with the same make and model. I suspect if you are having > > > this sort of > > > pitch drop after doing a unison that plate flex (pitch correction) is > > > making the difference. > > > > > > At 03:03 AM 3/23/02, you wrote: > > > >I thought this phenomenon is just the opposite. The pitch > > > sounds 2-4 cents > > > >sharper when the strip mute is in, compared to when it's out and > > > after the > > > >unisons are tuned. Isn't this common and tuners must compensate? > > > The pitch > > > >difference is obvious when comparing a muted trichord - hearing just > one > > > >string compared to the overall pitch after tuning its two unisons. > > > > > > > >Jay Mercier > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. > > > > > > mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca > > > http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ > > > > > > 3004 Grant Rd. > > > REGINA, SK > > > S4S 5G7 > > > 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner > > > > > > > > >
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