Refinishing - Stripping & Stain Uneveness

[gordon stelter]

Arthur,
    I am in full support of the replacement of
petro-solvent finishing products with water-borne, and
truly applaud you for this! I would even use them if
there were a small degradation in finish apperance
over NC Lacquer, or varnish, as the use of
Petro-finishes is toxic and miserable.
     But as one who has created ( with TREMENDOUS
misery, agony and grief ) the absolutely very
prettiest finishes I have EVER seen, I MUST take
exception to a few of your suggestions.
     1) The ideal piano stripping job requires NO, or
very, very little ( just to remove "whiskers" ) 
sanding afterwards. All sanding of the very thin 
( 1/28 inch thick ) veneeer WILL, besides risking
"cutting through" on corners and such, create an
uneven tone in the original stain! ESPECIALLY if one
starts with the 100 grit paper that you recommend!!!
     I may be an idjit in most regards, BUT THIS ONE
THING I DO KNOW! And I would like very much for the
grief I have gone through learning it to be of some
benefit to others!
     IT IS FAR BETTER to strip the case, wipe
thoroughly with lacquer thinner, and then, if the
stain is at all uneven or of an undesired shade,
bleach to evenness. ALL THE FINEST, MOST EXPERT
REFINISHERS RECOMMEND THIS! Especially Bob Flexner,
who has written BY FAR the best books on the subject,
and several of them!
     Then,as the bleach and subsequent wiping will
create tiny "Whiskers" of raised wood fiber, they are
GENTLY sanded oiff with 220 paper, prior to finishing.
     Thanks!
     Thump 
     P.S. I look forward to using your products,
     ( But I'll do it "my way", if you please. )
    
--- pianolac <pianolac@bestweb.net> wrote:
> Dyna 2 is $48/gal.  It's not a hazardous material
> and can be shipped UPS.
> Might seem a tad expensive, but you need apply it
> only once, wait overnight,
> and off comes the finish.
> 
> In some localities, disposing of methylene chloride
> waste must be done (to
> be legal) by an expensive hazardous material
> disposal company.  Not so with
> Dyna 2.  Its biodegradeable.
> 
> Arthur Grudko
> www.pianolac.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Moody" <remoody@midstatesd.net>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Refinishing - Stripping & Stain
> Uneveness
> 
> 
> > How much is  Dyna 2  and how much does it cost. 
> How can it be
> > shipped?   ----rm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pianolac <pianolac@bestweb.net>
> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Refinishing - Stripping & Stain
> Uneveness
> >
> >
> > > Terry
> > > Finish stripping with Dyna 2 non-methylene
> chloride stripper,
> > wash off with
> > > alcohol.  Sand with #100, #150, #220 papers, and
> you will have
> > an even toned
> > > wood (as even as nature made) ready to stain.
> > >
> > > The Dyna 2 is available from me, even though it
> isn't listed on
> > the website.
> > >
> > > Arthur Grudko
> > > www.pianolac.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 2:23 PM
> > > Subject: Refinishing - Stripping & Stain
> Uneveness
> > >
> > >
> > > > Refinishing question. I started stripping a
> piano - the
> > typical reddish
> > > stained mahogany. The finish was original. I
> have always used
> > chemical
> > > strippers before but I am trying scraping this
> time.
> >
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