More on soundboard crown

[Richard Brekne]

Ron Nossaman wrote:

> >Jimmenees there Ron.. I'm not attacking you or anything... Just trying to
> >sort out on my own what some of the justification for using a CC board
> >must be in the minds of its advocates. There is no game here... no
> >competition... nothing except a simple question.

This is complete balderdash... If you had not wanted to go through a few past
posts to sort out what seems a bit contradicting, then you could have said so
to begin with.  Nobody is debating physical principles here, nor bringing them
into question. That doesnt keep some of us from not swallowing every conclusion
you make about these well known phsysics. Nor should we.

Whether you like it or not, there is rather large group of significant players
out there who dissagree with you. And I am quite sure they are capable of
treating anyone who questions them exactly as you do here, and otherwise have
done many times before. You deliberatly avoid discussion choosing  to lecture
instead, and attribute it to what you deliberatly define as my (and others)
ignorance, my lack of reading up on background material, and in general my
attitude. None of which has anything remotely to do with the simple question I
asked... however you try and twist it. Its absolutely political of you.

Oh there's a game going on here alright... only problem is I refuse to play it
with you. Nobody is keeping score with you, nobody is competing with you. You
remember the first thing you said to me in person ?  You said... "I hope you
understand I had to take you down". I had to laugh.  And since then I have seen
you attempt to do that to myself and viturally anyone else who comes along
thinking things through a little differently then suits your temper.
Admirable.

Go back to the "I give up on you" phase you had decided on about me a year or
so ago. I have no use for whatever information you have to offer as long as its
continually laced thus.

Er... Cheers

RicB


>
> That's what I'm trying to do - keep it simple and accurate. Toward that
> end, I won't do the I said, you said thing. Nor will I go through my
> conversation with John with you trying to untangle every single word and
> alternate implication you can come up with for the next week. I know from
> past experience that nothing will come of this. I don't understand why you
> are asking these questions in the first place because all this stuff has
> been gone over with you personally in some detail more than a couple of
> times in the past and hasn't changed a bit since the last time. I know it's
> the poor little me doesn't understand about soundboards, but these
> discussions aren't about soundboards. If you don't believe what you hear,
> read up on it and learn for yourself. The information on wood properties is
> available for the reading any time you would like to read it. The fact that
> it doesn't specifically say anything about soundboards doesn't make it
> non-information. The principals discussed here about arches, beam
> deflection, compression set and the long term effects of various
> construction techniques aren't soundboard specific either. The principals
> apply universally to the materials in any construction using these
> materials. They happen to apply to soundboards because of the materials
> used to build soundboards, and that's all. This isn't soundboard physics,
> it's wood technology. You don't have to know a thing about soundboards to
> understand these physical principals. You just have to learn something of
> the physical properties of the materials and logically apply them. That's
> it. The physical principals aren't all that open to debate. They're
> documented by actual official sources and qualify as real, factual, and
> reasonably dependable information. You don't have to decide who's argument
> seems to hint at coming closer to what might be the running score of
> compared consensus this week to decide who might be ahead at the moment.
> You can learn the real basis for the discussions directly from the source
> and work up your own truth irrespective of who said what and we might not
> have to start over again at the beginning quite as often. Why don't you
> give it a try? You might find it interesting.
>
> Ron N
>
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