loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????

[Richard Strang]

I bought 8 ounces of the thin CA from Dryburg especially for the job. I lay
the piano on it's back and let the glue well around the pins. It never went
anywhere, except for down on the dampers when I lifed the piano back up.
What a mess.
   I have read about many technicians who have had good luck with the CA
approach. It didn't work for me. I also tried it on a single loose pin in a
Steinway D, and once again, it did not make it past the plate bushing. I
ended up shimming about 30 pins in that Steinway to make it tuneable. That's
a permanent fix, CA is not.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
Behalf Of Joe And Penny Goss
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:43 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????


Hi Richard,
I am supprised to hear that you had no luck with CA.
One thing you need to remember is that the glue has a shelf life that is
about 3 months long  if storred in a cool dry place. That includes the time
that the glue was in the store you purchased it from. The thin will turn
into medium, the medium to thick and the thick into rock hard over time.

Dryburg glues are the freshest you can get as the supply is continually
turned over with fresh glue.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Strang" <rstrang@pa.inter.net>
To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????


> I tried CA on a spinet a while back. It was a waste of time. The glue did
> not make it past the plate bushings and made a mess. I eventually repinned
> the whole piano. No more loose pins.
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> Behalf Of Richard Oliver Snelson
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:15 AM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Re: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????
>
>
> Use very thin CA. Tilt verticals back a bit. Treat around each pin till
> wet. Wait about 15 min. Tune the piano. Simple. Rich
>
> > Ron & Lorene Shiflet wrote:
> >
> > Good morning Liszt,
> >     Just a quick question.   Has anyone had any success doping a
> > pinblock with CA glue?  If so, what viscocities???did you use
> > accelerator???how deep does it seep in???etc...etc???
> >     I just heard about it the other day and I don't remember where.
> > I've actually thought about it for years but never thought it would
> > seep in deep enough to work.  Then comes the problem of curing CA glue
> > deep in wood (pinblock) without accelerator.  Any thoughts would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ron Shiflet
> > rlshiflet@cableone.net
> >
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