loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????

[Carl Meyer]

Nothing is as permanent as that what was meant to be temporary!!!

Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
Santa Clara, Ca.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????


> Define permanent <G>
> Joe Goss
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Strang" <rstrang@pa.inter.net>
> To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:45 PM
> Subject: RE: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????
>
>
> > I bought 8 ounces of the thin CA from Dryburg especially for the job. I
> lay
> > the piano on it's back and let the glue well around the pins. It never
> went
> > anywhere, except for down on the dampers when I lifed the piano back up.
> > What a mess.
> >    I have read about many technicians who have had good luck with the CA
> > approach. It didn't work for me. I also tried it on a single loose pin
in
> a
> > Steinway D, and once again, it did not make it past the plate bushing. I
> > ended up shimming about 30 pins in that Steinway to make it tuneable.
> That's
> > a permanent fix, CA is not.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> > Behalf Of Joe And Penny Goss
> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:43 AM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Re: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????
> >
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> > I am supprised to hear that you had no luck with CA.
> > One thing you need to remember is that the glue has a shelf life that is
> > about 3 months long  if storred in a cool dry place. That includes the
> time
> > that the glue was in the store you purchased it from. The thin will turn
> > into medium, the medium to thick and the thick into rock hard over time.
> >
> > Dryburg glues are the freshest you can get as the supply is continually
> > turned over with fresh glue.
> > Joe Goss
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Strang" <rstrang@pa.inter.net>
> > To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????
> >
> >
> > > I tried CA on a spinet a while back. It was a waste of time. The glue
> did
> > > not make it past the plate bushings and made a mess. I eventually
> repinned
> > > the whole piano. No more loose pins.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Richard Oliver Snelson
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:15 AM
> > > To: Pianotech
> > > Subject: Re: loose pinblocks - C/A glue ?????
> > >
> > >
> > > Use very thin CA. Tilt verticals back a bit. Treat around each pin
till
> > > wet. Wait about 15 min. Tune the piano. Simple. Rich
> > >
> > > > Ron & Lorene Shiflet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good morning Liszt,
> > > >     Just a quick question.   Has anyone had any success doping a
> > > > pinblock with CA glue?  If so, what viscocities???did you use
> > > > accelerator???how deep does it seep in???etc...etc???
> > > >     I just heard about it the other day and I don't remember where.
> > > > I've actually thought about it for years but never thought it would
> > > > seep in deep enough to work.  Then comes the problem of curing CA
glue
> > > > deep in wood (pinblock) without accelerator.  Any thoughts would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ron Shiflet
> > > > rlshiflet@cableone.net
> > > >
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