Dear List, Great Thread! It seems as though each successive pass on these great subjects, find us better focused on the heart of the matter. Please stop me if you've heard this one before, but it seems to me that what helper springs do in reducing the perceived weight on the cap, is to reduce the total load of the top action on the cap (Top Action Weight or TAW). The interesting part is that what's being reduced is the force of gravity encountered by the TAW, while the inertial response of the TAW (principally SW) is unaffected by the work of the springs. As is with BW and FW and any of the other static measurements, TAW can only measure the point at which the gravitational force (weight) of action parts (as modulated by action ratio) is overcome by a counterbalancing force at the key front. It reports gravitational force, but cannot read inertial force. So once again we are discussing a point in setting up an action where gravitational force is clearly altered (to our specs, hopefully), but where the effect on inertial response can only be vaguely assumed at. But I'm still betting a six-pack of sassparilla that because the helper spring accomplishes all its magic without changing the weight of the parts (well, alright, the weight of the spring minus the weight of the millings), inertial response is unaffected. IMHO Ballard RPT NH Chapter, P.T.G. "I'll play it and tell you what it is later...." ...........Miles Davis +++++++++++++++++++++
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