pedal lyre screws are obsolete

[Mike Bratcher]

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"...Next, drill out the holes where the screws were, also get a spade =
drill bit the size of the outside diameter of the "T" nuts, and make a =
cutting edge on the opposite side of the bit from the edge. That way you =
can use it to
countersink the place to put the "T" nut in the key bed and be out of =
the
way of the keyframe...."

I don't think this will work.  You will need to get a right angle drill =
attachment to fit between the pinblock and the keybed.  I've done this =
before and I had to get a forsner bit and cut the shank off to a nub, =
and it was still tight.

Mike Bratcher


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From: "kenneth.gerler" <kenneth.gerler@prodigy.net>
To: <Alpha88x@aol.com>; "PTG Forum" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: pedal lyre screws are obsolete


> Julia,
> When I ran into this problem, I went to the hardware store and bought =
some
> bolts(after measuring the length needed to go through both the lyre =
and the
> keybed) and "T" nuts (bolts the same diameter as the old wood screws). =
Next,
> drill out the holes where the screws were, also get a spade drill bit =
the
> size of the outside diameter of the "T" nuts, and make a cutting edge =
on the
> opposite side of the bit from the edge. That way you can use it to
> countersink the place to put the "T" nut in the key bed and be out of =
the
> way of the keyframe. Slip the bit into the hole (you previously =
drilled)
> from the top of the keybed, attach you drill to the bit hanging down =
from
> the keybed and drill a depth that will allow the "T" nut to clear the
> keyframe when it is reinserted. This repair will make the lyre like a =
lot of
> the new pianos being produced today and should last the lifetime of =
the
> piano.
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> Ken Gerler
> ----------------------------
> originial message
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> greetings,
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>             I recently took on a job for a small church with a =
Hazelton
> Brothers 6' grand that the pedal lyre just fell off, because the lyre =
sticks
> came
> out at one unknown time a long time ago and they kept using the piano,
> pedals
> and all. This caused the pedal lyre to "swing in the breeze" with use =
and as
> a
> consequence, the whole pedal lyre fell off because the screws were =
worked
> loose from use.
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>              Removing the remaining 2, (of 4)  5/16" diameter x 2 3/4" =
long
> screws resulted in a search for replacements only to find they are no =
longer
> made. Does anyone know where I can obtain such obsolete fastners? =
Someone at
> a
> hardware store mentioned a place named Constantine's in New York. Has =
anyone
> heard of this place? The national 1-800 directory assistance has no =
phone
> number
> on them and typing in www.constantine results in web page under =
construction
> message, so I cannot even be sure if this is the right constantine =
company.
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> thanks,
> Julia Gottschall
> piano rookie,
> Reading, PA
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