100 cents in a dollar 4 cents flat =4% ? Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:39 AM Subject: Re: close enough>?? Four percent of what? Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul E. Dempsey" <dempsey@Marshall.edu> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: close enough>?? Conrad, Throw the dart would be my answer. The pitch deviations you describe on your Yamaha are fairly typical for Yamahas, especially this time of year. We have a lot of Yamahas here at MU and the RH in the building this morning,9 am, was, according to my Dickson Data Logger, a whooping 4%.... Yes, that's right FOUR PER CENT. I've had no more than 15-17% since before Thanksgiving. Pitch raising is all I do, inspite of the fact that I let the pitch "float"( 15-20 cents sharp) beginning in the late fall when the RH was still in the 80's. Are we having fun yet? Conrad Hoffsommer wrote: >Friends, > >I've been lurking on this discussion, and been having my curiosity piqued. >A collateral question formed in my alleged brain. > > >I know about pitch raises, I just finished one. (Details below) >I know from previous threads that some tuners charge a per cent surcharge >for pitch raises - some beginning at 2¢. > > >The piano which I just tuned (1971 Yamaha P2E) had (according to RCT) a >pitch of 440.4Hz @ A4. This is just less than 2¢. So, according to the >above criterium, it should be a standard tuning. Right? > >HA! Wrong... Maybe if it were the Hamburg D which I tune every week. > >IT NEEDED A PITCH RAISE. > >The bass section was 8-23¢ flat, the first two plain unisons were -23¢ and >-40¢ with the pitch getting to within 4¢ by about F4 and staying there >until above the treble break where it went to a fairly constant -15/20¢. > >How you gonna charge for this? Average the cents deviation? Pick a note at >random? Use a dartboard? > >Do you have to wait until you are done and _then_ show the customer the >record of overpulls? > >Big pitch raises on those once-a-decade tunings are no-brainers. > > >Where and (more importantly) _how_ do you draw the line? > >Conrad > > >Conrad Hoffsommer - Music Technician >Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 >Vox-(563)-387-1204 // Fax (563)-387-1076(Dept.office) > >- People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public. -Bryan White > > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > ------------------- Paul E. Dempsey RPT Piano Technician Department of Music Marshall University _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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