simple useful tip !

[Isaac OLEG]

It is used with hide glue gluing method , but shoud work with any
other, , moistening the felt/leather allow us to tense it without
effort (one may be careful not to overdo it).

Perfect backcheks or whippen heel covering is a must.

Greetings


Isaac OLEG

Entretien et réparation de pianos.

PianoTech
17 rue de Choisy
94400 VITRY sur SEINE
FRANCE
tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98
fax : 033 01 47 18 06 90
cell: 06 60 42 58 77

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Joe And Penny Goss [mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com]
> Envoyé : vendredi 11 juillet 2003 01:40
> À : oleg-i@wanadoo.fr; Pianotech
> Objet : Re: simple useful tip !
>
>
> Hi Oleg,
> That water trick might also help when applying hot hide glue?
> Joe Goss
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Isaac OLEG" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr>
> To: "Gordon Holley" <gholley@hi-techhousing.com>; "Pianotech"
> <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: simple useful tip !
>
>
> > Hi Gordon,
> > We have to make this on some ancient French pianos (or German too)
> > where the rollers are more knuckles, or for some vertical.
> >
> > I usually send the job to be done elsewhere, in Paris or
> in Germany,
> > and the water trick is what they use, indeed that allow to tense
> > easely leather or felt, then the gluing is easy.
> >
> > I believe the leather can be thinned in a little drum
> sander with a
> > thickness guide, aint a difficult setup but you need a bench drill
> > press or something to hold the drum on a board (did not
> do that myself
> > actually)
> >
> >
> >
> > If the parts can have new rollers, of course Ill go that way (with
> > shanks as well.
> > BTW are the US Steinway rollers difficult to remove, with
> the leather
> > glued at the base on the shank ?
> >
> > When learning the job, every part was refurbished, new felts, new
> > centers, often new leathers.
> > These days we take new parts, the result is better most often !
> >
> > Greetings.
> >
> > Isaac OLEG
> >
> > Entretien et reparation de pianos.
> >
> > PianoTech
> > 17 rue de Choisy
> > 94400 VITRY sur SEINE
> > FRANCE
> > tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98
> > fax : 033 01 47 18 06 90
> > cell: 06 60 42 58 77
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Gordon Holley [mailto:gholley@hi-techhousing.com]
> > > Envoye : jeudi 10 juillet 2003 23:46
> > > A : oleg-i@wanadoo.fr; Pianotech
> > > Objet : Re: simple useful tip !
> > >
> > >
> > > Now you tell me.  I just finished putting new buckskin on
> > > 88 Kimball
> > > style knuckles, for an old Farrand Grand.  And that
> wasn't any fun
> > > either.  The sheet of buckskin had a variance in thickness
> > > enough to
> > > make some of the knuckles big fat and ugly.  Ended up
> replacing the
> > > first buckskin on 2 dozen knuckles with a second try.
> > > Joe Garrett tells me that he has a method of leveling out the
> > > thickness of the sheet, don't have the details on the process.
> > > I do know one thing, I'll never replace buckskin on
> knuckles again,
> > > I'll replace the shanks/knuckles and new hammers.  Yes, I
> > > know there
> > > is somewhat a difference in the costs between the two.
> > > I spent more time on it and I'm still not satisfied with
> > > the results.
> > >  The new knuckles made the regulation a nightmare.
> > > Another vodka tonic please.
> > > Regards, Gordon Holley
> > > Associate Member, Indiana Chapter 467
> > > Goshen, Indiana
> > > On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:34, Isaac OLEG wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear friends,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can resist giving you the little tip there.
> > > >
> > > > For the ones that regularely glue new leather on
> > > backchecks, new felt
> > > > on whippens, may be new leather or knuckles/roller
> sometime, the
> > > > magician trick is to use a drop of water on the
> > > felt/leather, so you
> > > > can glue easely with a little tension, then when the glue
> > > sets and the
> > > > part get dry the tensionning became perfect.
> > > >
> > > > I will offer soon little bottles of that water for a very
> > > reasonnable
> > > > price.
> > > >
> > > > More than useful, an old method rediscovered !
> > > >
> > > > Greetings.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Isaac OLEG
> > > >
> > > > Entretien et reparation de pianos.
> > > >
> > > > PianoTech
> > > > 17 rue de Choisy
> > > > 94400 VITRY sur SEINE
> > > > FRANCE
> > > > tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98
> > > > fax : 033 01 47 18 06 90
> > > > cell: 06 60 42 58 77
> > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> > > > > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
> > > > > part de Clyde Hollinger
> > > > > Envoye : jeudi 10 juillet 2003 13:01
> > > > > A : Pianotech
> > > > > Objet : Re: OT -- Telemarketing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen,
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't know "virtually NO popups" means one or
> two a month.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Clyde
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen Airy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I can also testify to the virtues of Mozilla.  I am using
> > > > > it, and I get
> > > > > > virtually NO popups, or maybe one or two a month.
> > > > >
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