Mark, David, thanks for providing us all these nice charts and numbers. Even out of the weight context I noticed that you said you have 11.4 mm dip, no way to have a normal touch with such a large dip, if the blow is 46 mm you have an unusual too low leverage, or way to much aftertouch to be cool (the jacks are stopped in the felt in the lever window) If the leverage is low may be you should have a look at the whippen rail, is it shimmed under the top of the flange with cardboard, giving you a very large spread ? It can be used as an artifact to compensate for too heavy hammers. The rollers position of course plays a prime importance in the evenness of feel. I have seen some Hamburg actions fitted with papering (shimming) under the whippen flange, but most often in the 70's. the stacks actually are more precise I guess. I am very interested in seeing what the graphs shows at last (indeed the UW/DW sample give us yet a lot of information (friction, BW) I'll provide you soon information's for a little Grotrian Steinway (without assist springs) . I find these analysis fabulous. Best regards. Isaac OLEG Entretien et réparation de pianos. PianoTech 17 rue de Choisy 94400 VITRY sur SEINE FRANCE tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98 fax : 033 01 47 18 06 90 cell: 06 60 42 58 77 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la > part de Mark Davidson > Envoyé : samedi 7 juin 2003 20:55 > À : Pianotech > Objet : Re: 1999 Steinway L with heavy action > > > > Mark, > > > > How about 88 Strike Weights? We'd get so much more > information that's > > useful. If you send us 88 Strike Weights I'll make a > nice analysis graph > > set to share with the group... > > > > David Stanwood > > > Here they are, along with some other info. > > Key ratio is quite consistently near .52 (.507 to .525 on the ones I > measured, average .517) > No evidence of any intent to graduate from bass to treble, etc. > > Capstan line appears to be quite straight (checked with > straight edge) > > Wippen weight measured at cushion is about 15.5g (15.4 to > 16.0 on the ones I > measured, average 15.5) > > Key dip .45"/11.4mm > > Blow distance 1.80"/46mm > > 17mm knuckles, but these are not particularly straight. > Flipped up hammers > and checked with straight edge and > saw as much as 1mm obvious difference between adjacent > knuckles (checked the > letoff side). Definitely not as straight > as capstans. > > Strike weights (hammers have never been filed, so this can > be taken as > original factory weight): > 10.3 > 11.1 > 11.1 > 10.9 C1 > 10.8 > 10.8 > 10.8 > 10.7 > 11.3 > 11.0 > 10.6 > 10.7 > 10.8 > 11.0 > 10.9 > 10.7 C2 > 10.7 > 10.5 > 10.5 > 10.9 > 11.0 > 10.7 > 10.4 > 10.7 > 11.0 > 10.5 > 10.4 > 10.2 C3 > 10.2 > 10.5 > 9.9 > 10.2 > 10.1 > 10.2 > 9.8 > 9.7 > 9.6 > 9.8 > 10.0 > 10.3 C4 > 10.4 > 10.5 > 10.6 > 10.6 > 10.4 > 10.0 > 9.9 > 10.0 > 9.8 > 9.6 > 9.6 > 9.7 C5 > 9.5 > 9.4 > 9.5 > 9.4 > 9.4 > 9.3 > 9.3 > 9.3 > 9.5 > 9.2 > 9.0 > 8.8 C6 > 8.9 > 8.4 > 8.3 > 8.3 > 8.2 > 8.1 > 8.1 > 7.6 > 7.7 > 7.8 > 7.5 > 7.3 C7 > 7.2 > 7.0 > 6.7 > 6.9 > 6.9 > 6.6 > 6.7 > 6.5 > 6.4 > 6.5 > 6.2 > 6.0 C8 > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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