Fwd: RE: Young Chang Action Brackets

Avery Todd avery@ev1.net
Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:28:50 -0500


Hi Kent,

I appreciate your response but why was it sent to you and
not to me. I sent Phil an e-mail and so far, haven't heard
back from him.

Plus at the end of this message there was this:

>>You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
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>>pianotech-owner@ptg.org.

Why am I not allowed to post anywhere on "this" list? Just curious
what that is and why it's there.

Avery

At 01:37 PM 06/09/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>>From: "Phil Glenn" <Phil@yca.tzo.com>
>>Date: Mon Jun 9, 2003  12:53:01  PM US/Central
>>To: <pianotech-owner@ptg.org>
>>Subject: [admin] RE: Young Chang Action Brackets
>>
>>Please post this reply.
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Phil
>>
>>Thanks Avery,
>>
>>I'll answer each of your questions, though basically any YC manufactured 
>>grand piano dating
>>from about 1990 to 1997 has the possibility of this occurring. If you see 
>>anything that is weird or unstable,
>>then you'll probably need to exchange the brackets. It will usually start 
>>to show up between two to five years from new.
>>Very rarely do you find any visual defect on the bracket itself.
>>
>>1. What I DIDN'T see was everything I've read about it. I was able
>>to easily pull the action out; the drop screws didn't scrape on
>>the underside of the pin block, etc.
>>         These severe symptoms only occur on very advance cases and not 
>> always then.
>>         The only predictable thing about the growing
>>         brackets is that they are unpredictable... and the hammers block.
>>
>>2.  Besides the blocking, all I could see was that the underside of
>>the drop screw was AWFULLY close to the front edge of the wippen
>>buckskin and the jacks were mostly WAY too far back under the
>>knuckle.>
>>         As the brackets expand, it pulls the hammer rail away from the 
>> wippen rail,
>>         thus the jack is moved back from the roller.
>>
>>3.  Besides measuring the spread (which I don't know what it's supposed
>>to be) how can one know for sure?>
>>         Measuring the spread is the only technical way to know, but then 
>> the spread could be off for other reasons.
>>         The affected pianos had a spread of 112.5 mm pre-1991 and 113.5 
>> mm post 1991.
>>         It doesn't take much to make a huge     difference (1 or 2 mm) but,
>>         I had a tech the other day tell me that the spread on his piano 
>> was 119.
>>
>>4. It's had water leak/damage in the middle and 1st treble section and
>>the strings and plate are rusty there. I can also see evidence of it
>>by stains on the action rails and a few of the shanks.>
>>         Water damage could cause the keyframe to warp, imitating the 
>> bracket symptoms,
>>         though the spread shouldn't change. But... if your going to be 
>> doing major work
>>         to a piano within the affected range, you may as well throw in a 
>> set of brackets.
>>
>>
>>5. I just don't want to do the "growing action brackets" thing without
>>being sure. Any ideas how I can BE sure? Thanks.>
>>         Thanks for your concern. As this is a major warranty situation, 
>> we have a need
>>         to keep expenses at a minimum. However, the customer is our 
>> greatest responsibility.
>>         We don't want unstable pianos in the field when there is a very 
>> easy fix.
>>         When in doubt, seek me out.
>>         I receive a paycheck because I am here to help you.
>>
>>The pianotech list is a great tool and resource,  I am sorry I can't 
>>afford the time to monitor the internet each day,
>>but I do try and answer all of my e-mails every morning.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Phil B. Glenn, RPT
>>National Service Manager
>>Young Chang Acoustic Pianos
>>(800) 874-2880 x110
>>Parts, Jim Davis x132
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pianotech-owner@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-owner@ptg.org]
>>Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:52 AM
>>To: Phil Glenn
>>Subject: Young Chang Action Brackets
>>
>>
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