I can only recommend to Tony that you get your hands on a Verituner and tune a few pianos. Try a few spinets. The experience will make you a believer. The VT is absolutely AMAZING! When used properly, IMHO, it will consistently yield a tuning equal to or better than a very fine aural tuning produced by a highly skilled aural tuner on a good day who is well rested and who is in a good mood and only has the one tuning that day. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Caught" <caute@bigpond.com.au> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:24 AM Subject: Re: machines or not? what? > Hi André > > Don't blame Alan for those comments, they are mine. I am at the moment > trying to understand why so many people who use these machines recon that > they are so good. To tune a piano from A0 to C8 by machine and say its tuned > is to me just unbelievable. Who is kidding who ? > So OK, Verituner is one that I have no experience with and from what has > been said by you and others has led me to believe that it is not a machine, > its a visual extension of your ear. > My lease is due to expire on my computer and because of that I have to > decide wether I want to buy a Verituner and do my bookwork manually or still > tune by ear with an assist from the machine to help relieve the stress. > > Look After, > > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <antares@euronet.nl> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:18 AM > Subject: machines or not? what? > > > > > > On vrijdag, jun 20, 2003, at 21:49 Europe/Amsterdam, Alan Forsyth wrote: > > > > >>>> " But this is still all based on the original scale that is set and > > >>>> that > > > is the way it should be. ...To deviate from this standard (variations > > > accepted) is not in my opinion a good practice. To allow a machine to > > > say " > > > Hey my C1 inharmonicity is way, way, out, so you have to tune the > > > piano with > > > a scale that will accept me and to hell with every other note." is not > > > good.......So I guess that the correct way to tune a piano is still by > > > ear. > > > ...........">>> > > > > > > > > > I am sorry Alan Forsyth, > > but I do not agree with you. > > I have tuned an awful lot of piano's by ear and I have spoken here many > > times about my aural tuning experience. > > At the same time I have become an advocate for the most perfect tuning > > machine: the Verituner > > > > This machine gives us the most perfect tuning possible with the least > > amount of trouble. i.e. no computer stuff, no choosing of partials, no > > anything. > > You just choose your pitch and that's just it. A perfect box and at the > > same time perfectly simple to handle too. > > So far, every buyer that I know of went crazy after the very first > > tuning : they can't believe it! they have never heard such a > > fantastic tuning before in their whole life...every buyer! > > > > So think about that! you want to tune by ear? what's against that? > > nothing. but to say "So I guess that the correct way to tune a piano is > > still by ear' like you just said ? > > That is today not necessary anymore. We are now living in 2003 and the > > Verituner has been around for a number of years. leaving behind an army > > of extremely happy tuners. > > With all my respect for aural tuning and for you. (the other day my > > battery was low and I had to tune aurally, the old fashioned way....I > > grumbled but of course did the job and it was easier than ever before! > > Using the Verituner has even improved my hearing) > > > > Antares, > > The Netherlands > > > > see my web site : www.concertpianoservice.nl > > and : www.grandpiano.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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