Greg, I'd like to see a picture of it. Send it privately if you think that would be better. Thanks. Avery At 08:21 PM 06/23/03 -0400, you wrote: >I have a rather simple loop maker that I purchased from the late Bob >Russell Sr. It is both simple and easy to use. It produces predictable >clean coils every time but is not without the possibility of gaffe's if >your not paying attention to what you're doing. I'll give a brief >description of it's construction. The body of it is from about a 1 1/2" >hardwood dowel with a hole drilled through it longitudinally. In that hole >is placed a brass sleeve insert through which ultimately the wire will >pass on it's way to the looping end. There is another hole drilled through >it tangentially(?) which has a key pin ( I think) going all the way >through and protruding out each side to act as a handle to turn the dowel >around the string passing through it. At the business end is a small tack >or nail with a head driven in to one side of the brass sleeve. To use, all >one does is to pass the string through the sleeve and out the other side. >Using round jawed pliers make a loop in the string. Put the end of the >loop against and under the nail head and slowly rotate the tool making the >string end rotate around and thus giving you the coils. The only problem I >ever have with it is visualizing which direction to rotate the tool for >the desired outcome on the string. I like the tail to stop and rotate >downwards against the plate. FWIW, I hope this helps someone. If you need >a picture just yell. > >Greg Newell > > > >At 07:58 PM 6/23/2003, you wrote: > >>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = >>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"> >>Hi Dave, >>You have to practice a bit, trying different tensions. At first I used to >>break or weaken the strings as well. >>But now I find the loop maker works well. >>It really is a tool that practice makes perfect. (Well almost) :-) >>Regards, >>John M. Ross >>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada >><mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:pdtek@mchsi.com>Dave Bunch >>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech >>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:36 PM >>Subject: Re: Restringing >> >>As far as loop makers go, I would warn someone new to this to avoid the >>loop makers with the crank commonly seen in the catalogs. They are good >>for nothing but breaking wire. With just a little practice, one can make >>a first rate loop by hand using nothing more than a nail in a vise. This >>will work fine for the 99% of pianos that have just one or two looped strings. >> >>Dave Bunch >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net>Alan >>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>'Pianotech' >>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:28 AM >>Subject: RE: Restringing >> >>Yes … >> >>Not a complete treatise, but a few thoughts. >> >>First time, it will take you close to three 8-days. >>An experienced person can do it in about two days. >>I don’t think it’s fair for people to pay for my “learning curves,” so I >>would bill the job based on, say, 18 hours. >>Take the job. Learn and earn. >> >>Critical things to have, purchase, or make-your-own … >> >>1. A pinblock jack >>2. Coil maker >>3. 2½ lb sledge hammer (for fine tuning and watch repair) >>4. Real wire cutters, not pin nippers or light duty electrical “dikes” >>5. Heavy gloves or, better yet, glass-handler’s gloves >>6. Eye >>protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many jobs >>call for eye protection: Restringing SCREAMS for it. Wear industrial eye >>protection, the kind that protects from the sides, >>too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>7. Band-Aids (Don’t make your own.) >> >>Helpful things to have … >> >>1. A ½” drive variable speed electric drill with “pin removing bit” >>(see archives). ¼” drill will not do, doesn’t have enough torque, >>especially at slower speeds and you don’t want to spin the pins so fast >>that you set the piano on fire or, more likely, damage the holes. >>2. New set of pin collars (depending). New hitch pin punchings, >>felts, braid, etc. (depending) >>3. Tuning pin crank >>4. Loop maker >> >>Look up in the archives or read Reblitz, etc., about measuring strings, >>marking where string sizes change, etc. >> >>Examine the piano carefully before you start: >>1. Make sure the legs are secure and nothing is wobbly. 999/1000 >>times this is no problem. The 1/1000th time, a disaster can ensue. >>2. Pull the lid hinge pins with the lid closed. Unless it is a very >>small piano, get the owner or someone to help you lift off the lid and >>put it in a safe place. >>3. Examine the pinblock and bridges very carefully. Discuss >>problems with owner. NOW is the time to make any repairs. >>4. Note any problems or anticipated problems. Write them down. Have >>the owner look at them with you and sign the paper acknowledging the >>problems. Again 1/1000, but you don’t want any arguments later. I would >>take a torque wrench and measure each pin—or at least a good sampling—as >>I made the first tension reduction turns of the pin to make sure you spot >>any “patterns” suggesting block damage or any pin holes that might need a >>little epoxy, etc. Easier to do it now than to have to remove pins later. >> >>Have fun. >> >>Alan R. Barnard >>Salem, MO >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On >>Behalf Of Richard Strang >>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:14 AM >>To: pianotech (E-mail) >>Subject: Restringing >> >>Hello, all, >> Piano restringing has always been a little out of my line of work, >> as I do not have a shop. However, I have a good customer that is >> requesting me to restring his grand on site, and I'm debating on whether >> I should accept the job or not. 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