Actual piano question: Pin strength and chipboard Yamahas

[gordon stelter]

   As you have been complaining to the supervisors
yourselves, perhaps you would not mind if I simply
emailed all the posts on this thread to the factory
mgmnt?
    What is their e-mail address? I'd sure hate for
you to wind up with a permanent injury, as I suspect
will happen if all the pianos are like the one I tuned
yesterday!
     Respectfully,
     Gordon stelter

--- "Benny L. Tucker" <precisionpiano@alltel.net>
wrote:
> 
>      By the way: I live pretty close to the factory.
> Want me to drive oiver there and give them a piece
> of
> our collective minds on this? I really wouldn't
> mind!
>     Regards,
>     Thump
> 
> Yes, Yes, and more Yes!
> We the tuners, aka the crippled ones, wish that
> every tech everywhere would
> scream to the dealers and anybody else who will
> listen about the tight pin
> problems. We've been complaining to the supervisors
> about this for a long
> time. When it does show improvement, it is usually
> short lived and the
> torque is going through the roof again.
>     So please, do complain about the tight pins, to
> the management at
> Yamaha, and the dealers (who the management listens
> to).
>     To add insult to injury, they come around asking
> why the tunings suck!!
> duh.
>     And my arm and shoulder says, Thank You, for
> complaining
> 
> Benny L. Tucker
> Yamaha Factory Tuner
> Precision Piano Tuning & Repair
> Thomaston, Ga.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Actual piano question: Pin strength and
> chipboard Yamahas
> 
> 
> > Thanks Ron!
> >     Yes, the pins were in too tight. But this, in
> > COMBINATION with their seemingly excessive
> tendency to
> > flex, is what made tuning it so very, very
> obnoxious.
> > (IMHO). If the pins were rock-solid-rigid, it
> wouldn't
> > have really been so bad. (IMHO)
> >      By the way: I live pretty close to the
> factory.
> > Want me to drive oiver there and give them a piece
> of
> > our collective minds on this? I really wouldn't
> mind!
> >     Regards,
> >     Thump
> >
> > --- Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Not that simple, you need the right balance
> > > between, tensile strength and
> > > >rigidity.   Now the trick is to get two
> engineers
> > > to agree.  Once the pin
> > > >gets in the field, we tech's bitch that there
> is
> > > too much flex.
> > > >Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> > > >Roger
> > >
> > > It's not the pins that are the problem anyway.
> > > They're just putting them in
> > > too bloody tight. We used to have the same
> problems
> > > with new Kimballs for
> > > the same reason.
> > >
> > > Every year for the last five years or so, the
> Yamaha
> > > pinning seems to get
> > > tighter. Why are they doing this? The Thomaston
> > > products are now very
> > > difficult to tune, and I battled a new U3 last
> week
> > > that was virtually
> > > untunable for this reason.
> > >
> > > Ron N
> > >
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