Thank you very much, Jonathan. And good night, all!

[gordon stelter]

--- Jonathan Finger <johann@tollidee.com> wrote:
> Not to spur things forward (unless they had pianos
> back then, and
> Vespucci was servicing them), but I did a little
> research of my own, and
> found that "Mr. Stetler" isn't far off.
> 
> Understandably, people are quick to yell and scream
> at people they don't
> like.  But if you go read up a bit, you will find
> that some of the
> things Vespucci did indeed describe sexual
> attributes of the native
> women encountered.  He also was intrigued with their
> practices of
> procreation in general, and wrote quite a lot about
> it.  
> I don't want to take this there, as some of the
> writings are a bit
> graphic in nature, but Vespucci describes specific
> acts, methods, etc.. 
> 
> I understand calling Gordon out on not having
> references for his claims.
> But in the end, if the information is correct, it
> doesn't matter.  Go
> search a bit on this wonderful information
> superhighway, and find some
> of these writings, or letters.  You'll see that in
> fact we weren't
> taught the whole story in grade school (as with most
> other things).
> 
> 
> Jonathan Finger RPT
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of Keith McGavern
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:52 PM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: RE: Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo}
> 
> >Sorry. Article read years ago. Do not remember in
> what
> >publication.
> 
> Sorry doesn't cut it, friend.
> 
> If you can't even remember the article or te
> publication, how can you 
> possibly expect anyone to rely on your memory for
> its contents.
> 
> >But I think that the encyclopedia article
> >another tech posted, very understatedly mentioning
> >that the "sexual descriptions" in Vespuccis'
> pamphlet
> >made it most popular is validation enough.
> 
> Your concept of "sexual descriptions" is sorely
> distorted. Based on 
> that alone clearly shows discrepancies in your
> interpretation of the 
> definitions of words.
> 
> >Search on
> >your own and I'm sure you can find the actual texts
> (if you're 
> >really that prurient)....Gordon Stetler
> 
> Ah, prurient. Kudos.
> 
> You use the means by which a scoundrel would scurry
> to hide from the 
> light that has exposed him by attempting to cast
> aspersions in 
> another person's direction. Nice ploy, but
> absolutely useless 
> rhetoric in the context of this thread.
> 
> In case you missed it, your the only one that
> brought matters up. 
> Seems like simple math to me who the prurient one
> is.
> 
> References, Mr. Stetler, or just own up that you are
> doing nothing 
> more than operating from a highly personal sense of
> literary license, 
> or possibly even worse, just plain want to believe
> what you want 
> regardless of evidences presented.
> 
> Regardless, unless you can offer something concrete
> concerning your 
> claims, what you have said thus far about this
> individual is fairly 
> useless other than the dramatics of it all.
> 
> I do thank you for the exercise, however. There is
> reward in that.
> 
>  From one dirty old man to another,
> 
> Keith McGavern
> Registered Piano Technician
> Oklahoma Chapter 731
> Piano Technicians Guild
> USA
> 
> 
> 
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