Dave Davis wrote: > Hi Gang, > > Okay, I have legitimate piano related questions to > whet the Pianotech appetite. (For those who are still > here). > > I've been tuning with RCT for less than a year and am > now seriously studying the art of aural tuning. In > reading the PTG Tuning Exam Source Book, I've found a > couple of nagging questions. > > #1. In making "2 passes" to tune the piano, do most > people include tuning the unisons in each pass, or > just the temperament and octaves, then the unisons in > the second pass? (pretending the piano is within 4 > cents of A-440) I personally tune unisons as I go, and nearly always overlap my two passes. Typically start at D3 and tune up to A4, then tune from A#4 to E6 while double checking the 12th below. When I get to the point where I have a double octave with a tuned 12th below the top note, I start looking also at the developing 4:2:1 relationship and adjust as seems neccessary. I continue this way up to C8. Bass notes are done in somewhat similar fashion. > > > #2. I'm overwhelmed with all the different tests > involved in checking the treble and bass. What are > the most effective tests used by the masses in every > day tuning? I find you need to keep track of at least two different tests to be reasonably sure. I like 10ths and 12ths myself. But then useing an ETD I also directly compare the 6:3 octave as it is very easy to do. You dont want to get carried away with checks to the point where you use too much time and effort tweaking beyond either your own capabilties or the pianos resolution. > > I'm planning to take the RPT Tuning Exam later this > year and am practicing up a storm to get it down > right. According to the RCT, I'm catching on pretty > well. Good ... just keep working on your ear skills. You'll get there. > > > If this goes well and doesn't raise political or moral > posts, I'll have more questions in a few days. > > Thanks, > > Dave Davis > Renton, WA > Puget Sound Chapter > > --- Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net> wrote: > > Charles, > > > > Even though I agree with what you said, it shouldn't > > be necessary to do that > > just to stay on the list and not be inundated with > > "stuff"! Maybe I'm just > > "living in the past", so to speak, but I don't > > remember us ever having all > > this many problems in the early years of the list. > > Why are we now? Why > > are there so many people on the list posting stuff > > that offends and alienates > > so many people? > > > > I have a very high tolerance for this kind of > > off-topic stuff because I know > > how to use the delete button but why should it be > > necessary?????? And > > even I'm getting tired of it! I like to "attempt" a > > little one-liner type > > of joke > > every now and then but I've never posted the kind of > > things that have been > > on the list in the last year or so! Why are we > > having it now? I wish I knew > > the answer! > > > > Avery > > > > At 06:48 PM 03/16/03 -0500, you wrote: > > >Some suggestions for handling pianotech: > > > > > >1) You can view the archives and read only the > > posts you want to, and post > > >when you want to. You don't need to be subscribed. > > > > > >2) You can post a question and view only responses > > to that question via > > >the archives. > > > > > >3) You can get the digest version. If you scroll > > through it quickly you > > >can pick out the good stuff. > > > > > >Charles Neuman > > >PTG Assoc, Long Island > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, James Ellis wrote: > > > > A week or so ago, I sent a memo to the PTG-L > > list regarding a technical > > > > problem. I was informed by one individual that > > I was out of order, and > > > > that it should have been sent to the Pianotech > > list. I agreed, and signed > > > > up for Pianotech, and for CAUT as well. > > > > > > > > Since that time, I have kept a log of the number > > of messages that have come > > > > through. During the past 48 hours, I have > > received 18 from CAUT, and 160 > > > > from Pianotech. A little bit of really good > > stuff has come through on both > > > > lists, but a lot of other material, especially > > on Pianotech, had nothing to > > > > do with technical piano matters at all. One > > item was a group of JPEG > > > > images that my computer could not read, that > > jammed it with at least 100 > > > > pages of pure jibberish that took forever to > > download, and that caused the > > > > computer to jam when I went to shut down my > > E-mail. I ended up having to > > > > pull the plug to un-jamm it. I do have JPEG on > > the computer, but perhaps > > > > it's an older version that would not read what > > was coming through. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I can't put up with this, so I am > > un-subscribing from Pianotech as > > > > soon as I send this message. I'll stay with > > CAUT for a while longer, and > > > > definitely with PTG-L. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, Jim Ellis, RPT > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >pianotech list info: > > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. 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