Key Leads and Inertia

Classic Touch Ent classictouchent@comcast.net
Thu, 01 May 2003 13:40:24 -0400


Hello again,

I'm wondering if the concept of accelerated action has less to do with 
the downstroke (less inertia to overcome on a high velocity strike) 
than with the return (with the weight(s) closer to the balance pin they 
are less effective counterbalancing the stack mass- potentially a 
quicker return). I guess it has a perceived overall benefit on both 
sides of the keystroke?

Rich
On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 01:14 PM, Classic Touch Ent wrote:

> Greetings Richard and Don and all interested,
>
> While the example given states a relationship regarding inertia and 
> the effect of weight a given distance from the 'fulcrum', it seems 
> somewhat removed from my real world experience.
> How many pianos have weights placed one cm from the fulcrum? See 
> http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/Pa100088web.jpg . (I.m guessing the lead 
> closest to the balance pin (fulcrum) is 7- 10 cm away.)
> That aside, at any given distance, how much assistance does a weight 
> or weights give the pianists finger moving the 'stack mass' (which is 
> say 11 cm on the other side of the fulcrum)? and at what velocity? and 
> finally at the location of the pianists on the key lever? Doesn't the 
> distance of the pianists finger from the fulcrum mitigate the 
> effectiveness of weights either fore or aft of the point of finger 
> contact (and at differing rates of effectiveness for differing 
> velocities)? Isn't it interesting that the pianists finger position is 
> (by necessity or choice) variable? Richard Brekne, the name of your 
> pharmicist/drug store (do they deliver to the US) please.
>
> Best, Rich Olmsted
>
> On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 08:33 PM, Don wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> The inertia goes up by the *square* of the distance from the 
>> fulcrum--so
>> yes three weights would likely have less inertia than *one* farther 
>> from it.
>>
>> Run the numbers
>>
>> 30 grams x 1 cm from fulcrum = 30
> How many pianos have weights placed one cm from the fulcrum? Of any of 
> my grand pianos the closest weight is 10 cm from the balance pin. Also 
> See http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/Pa100088web.jpg . I.m guessing the 
> lead closest to the balance pin (fulcrum) is 7- 10 cm away.
> From what I have observed the 30 grams nearer the fulcrum might more 
> likely be (3) 10 gram weights spaced over a distance, say 7- 12   from 
> the balance pin (not in the same location & each having a different 
> effect).
>>
>> 10 grams x 3 cm from fulcrum = 90
>>
>> If I'm wrong please let me know *grin*.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
>>
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