Corte writes: << as I understand it, whichever direction you move the pitch, it tends to want to spring back by about a third. So, in general, you move the pitch 3 cents in one direction, it will settle about 1 cent back in the other direction. This is the whole basis of overshooting the pitch during pitch raising.<< I think the Sanderson number is 25%. I have found SAT raises to often be dead on when I begin to tune after the raise. One thing I do that I haven't seen proposed is that I take my readings an octave above where I am, ie, right above the bass break is usually way sharper or flatter than the rest of the piano, so I don't set the SAT correction there, I go up about an octave and measure. Then I go back to the break note and bring them up. When I have traveled up an octave, I measure another octave above etc. It isn't uncommon to do a 15 cent raise and find that many of the notes are within 2 cents of final when I begin the tuning. >>Now, if you are fine tuning and you pull the pitch up to 6 cents and then move it down to the target pitch, it will end up creeping back up by a couple of cents. In other words, in my opinion, you're not fine tuning if you're moving pitches around by 5 or 6 cents as you describe below. << I haven't found that to be true. I don't see strings creeping back up after I place them. On a tight pinblock, I am often moving the string down below pitch and letting the pin's release pull them back up to almost on target. Then a very light wiggle of the hammer upward and the pitch is set. I like a very tight topstring for stability, but most final tuning is done with pin flex. I am very aware of the torque and bend of the tuning pins as I go through a piano, and a number of the pianos in my clientele are tuned 100 times a year. The use of pin flex doesn't necessarily damage the pin or block.(in fact, you can't turn a pin with 120 lbs of torque without flexing it). Regards, Ed Foote RPT www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/ www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html <A HREF="http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/399/six_degrees_of_tonality.html"> MP3.com: Six Degrees of Tonality</A>
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