soundboard stresses

David M. Porritt dm.porritt@verizon.net
Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:02:16 -0500


Only mildly related here, but does anyone know if Steinway made any changes to their crowning procedures as a result of the lawsuits filed by A. Michael's Piano Co. some 15 - 20 years ago?  Whatever you think of his methods, he did cause quite a stir.  Lots of pictures of compression ridges, cracks, loosed ribs -- and this on pianos still in the showroom.  Did Steinway make any procedural changes after this?  Does anyone else remember all this?

dave

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David M. Porritt, RPT
Meadows School of the Arts
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, TX 75275


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From: Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:31:29 -0500
Subject: Re: soundboard stresses


>>O.K. Ron. So you are saying that a cross grain spruce reacts to stress in 
>>a non linear way. It resists compression more and more as it is 
>>compressed? As I see it, with my limited understanding, it should react to 
>>compression forces in a linear and predictable fashion within the elastic 
>>range. Check out a stress strain graph to see what I mean.

>Yes, John, I see what you mean. So let's go with that. Looking at the 
>stress/strain chart in Hoadley's "Understanding Wood", I also note that the 
>elastic limit is less than 1%, which is also stated in the text. Using the 
>supplied formula with the appropriate expansion/shrinkage average for Sitka 
>spruce, we get

>Dimensional change = Lin*0.043*((MC%2-MC%1)/0.28)

>with MC%1 being the lower MC and MC%2 the higher.

>We see that a panel that is 36" wide at 4.5%MC will expand by 0.359" when 
>taken to 11%MC. It's proportional, so any width will produce the same 
>percentage size change (1% with these MC ranges). That will happen at 70° 
>@  60% relative humidity. Constraining this panel to a flat rib will bring 
>it under compression beyond the fiber stress proportional limit, indicated 
>in this same reference at 580psi radially perpendicular to the long grain, 
>and induce some degree of immediate and permanent compression set. I submit 
>that it is highly unlikely for a piano built this way to remain under 11%MC 
>forever to avoid immediate panel damage, never mind long term compression 
>set which occurs at a rate proportional to internal compression. I also 
>submit that it is highly likely that the piano will reach an MC 
>significantly above 11% before it even gets out of the factory, so 
>permanent panel compression damage almost certainly occurs before the piano 
>is even finished.

>Note that this is irregardless of the ribbing material used, bearing, or 
>panel thickness, and is merely the result of assembling a compression 
>crowned panel with flat ribs.

>This looks to me to entirely contradict your claim that building CC boards 
>with flat ribs does not put the panel at damagingly high compression 
>levels. Immediate compression damage seems to, instead, be a realistically 
>unavoidable consequence.

>Incidentally, I had always heard 4%MC quoted as the preferred dry down 
>level for this type of construction. When did it become 4.5%, and why?

>Ron N

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