Baldwin pre-cut string (OT)

[Cy Shuster]

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Didja ever *really* have to go, at a seafood restaurant, and wind up =
staring at "clams" and "oysters"?!?

--Cy--
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  From: Carl Meyer=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string



  At the kennel the signs say "pointers" and "setters".  The local =
marinas use "Inboards" and "outboards"  Double <G>

  Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
  Santa Clara, Ca.

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    From: Joe And Penny Goss=20
    To: Pianotech=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 7:38 AM
    Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string


    <G>
    Joe Goss
    imatunr@srvinet.com
    www.mothergoosetools.com
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      From: Allan Gilreath=20
      To: 'Pianotech'=20
      Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:14 AM
      Subject: RE: Baldwin pre-cut string


      How about if we call them Vise grips instead of Vice grips?  There =
might be a difference. (Kind of like the sign on the door reading =
"ladies" instead of "laddies".) <chuckle>



      Allan

      Allan L. Gilreath, RPT



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      From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] =
On Behalf Of John Ross
      Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:56 AM
      To: Pianotech
      Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string



      Hi Michael,

      Mole wrenches, are called vice grips over here.

      Regards,

      John M. Ross
      Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
      jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca

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        From: Michael Gamble=20

        To: pianotech@ptg.org=20

        Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:39 PM

        Subject: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string



        Hello Glen & Del

        This pre-cut string is a strange idea. I thought pianos were =
always strung up from, as Del says, spools of overhead string.

        But I'd like to add a little something a-propos the kinks or =
bends in string. I have a policy when tuning an old piano, and whenever =
it is possible, to use the old string by simply loosening off its =
companion, straightening out the old string where it had been on the =
hitch, and threading it up to the old wrest-pin and tuning up. I find =
that when doing this the tonal quality stays the same and they don't =
stretch like a replacement new string. You just land up with maybe two =
coils or less on the two wrest-pins in question. The strings eventually =
straighten out pretty well. I find using a "mole-wrench" on the hitch =
pin a good idea to hold the string in place while fiddling around with =
the loose end. Is "mole wrench" an international term? It's an =
adjustable gripping tool which can grip with incredible force if needed =
and is adjusted by a knurled knob sticking out of the end of one of the =
handles. Good description?  :-)

        Michael G (UK)

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        From: Delwin D Fandrich=20

        To: Pianotech=20

        Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:31 PM

        Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string





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          From: Crashvalve@aol.com=20

          To: pianotech@ptg.org=20

          Sent: October 22, 2003 5:13 AM

          Subject: Baldwin pre-cut string



          When I visited Conway in 73' they had precut and straightened =
wire to string the verticals. I know a straighter wire gives truer =
harmonics, Question is; does zig-zag roller straightening of piano wire =
have any downside like false beats etc ? If rollers are good, did =
Baldwin use then in two or four planes ?
          regards
          Glenn C.=20



        Unless there is a kink in the wire, any wire stretched to 150+ =
lbs of tension is going to be pretty straight. With this in mind I'm not =
sure what you mean when you say "a straighter wire gives truer =
harmonics."=20



        Baldwin uses straightened and pre-cut wire simply as a =
manufacturing expediency. These wires are purchased from Mapes to =
specification with each coming bundled in a package of, perhaps, a =
hundred or so identical wires labeled for a specific spot on a specific =
piano. These are then placed in one of several tubes set up so the =
stringer can pull whichever specific wire is needed in sequence as =
stringing progresses.



        The grand pianos are strung from standard 5-lb coils in rack =
held above the piano.



        Del

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