Soundboard stiffening

Don pianotuna@accesscomm.ca
Wed, 04 Feb 2004 19:37:11


Hi,

As you compress a 100 per unit spring one unit it pushes back with 100.
After two units it is pushing back at 200--but it is *not* more rigid.

At 06:37 AM 2/4/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Hunh? When was thelast time you compressed a spring by
>hand??? Everyone I've ever compressed definitely
>offers more resistance ( stiffness) the further it is
>bent, or compacted.
>     Twoing
>
>--- Phillip Ford <fordpiano@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > >At the risk of oversimplification, isn't a
>> crowned soundboard just a big
>> > >spring, the more you compress it, the more rigid
>> it becomes?
>> > >
>> > >David Love
>> > >davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
>> > >
>> >
>> >David,
>> >
>> >This is the point that I was trying to make.  I
>> believe that the
>> >soundboard is essentially just a big spring.  A
>> spring doesn't get
>> >more rigid or stiff the more you compress it. 
>> Within its working
>> >range it has a constant spring rate or stiffness.
>> ... If the board is
>> >actually getting stiffer as a result of applied
>> load then it's not
>> >acting like a spring or a beam, and I would like to
>> understand what
>> >mechanism is causing that to happen.
>> >
>> >Phil Ford
>> >
>> >   Phil
>> >   If this is true then why can I measure a
>> predictable amount of residual 
>> > bearing at the bridge after the board is string?
>> 
>> You could do that whether the spring rate was linear
>> or non-linear.  Let's 
>> say you put on 1 1/2 degrees of bearing everywhere. 
>> Let's say that the 
>> bridge sinking 1/10 inch would decrease that to 1/2
>> degree bearing.  Let's 
>> say for the sake of argument that the spring rate of
>> the board is uniformly 
>> a linear 1000 lbs/in. everywhere.  Let's say total
>> downward load from the 
>> bearing is 100 lbs.  This would result in a
>> predictable and measurable 1/2 
>> degree bearing after stringing.
>> 
>> I don't see that the board spring rate has to be
>> non-linear (the board 
>> doesn't have to be stiffening as you load it) in
>> order to end up with 
>> bearing after stringing.
>> 
>> 
>> >    I thinkthe boards compression rate is non
>> linear. At least that's the 
>> > wya it behaves in my hands.
>> >    DAle
>> 
>> 
>> You may be right.  But I'm going to have to see some
>> measurements to be 
>> convinced.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.

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