Maybe the wippens for the bass and treble were switched ??? The spoons go in opposite directions, sometimes. Thump --- Dave Nereson <davner@kaosol.net> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:15 AM > Subject: Re: single spoon or backcheck wire > installation > > > > Dave Nereson said: " How do y'all usually install > just one new backcheck > > wire or spoon? I've > > done it before but it's been awhile, and if > there's an easier, better way, > I > > couldn't think of it last night." > > > > David, > > You got started in the right direction, but then > you took a hard left > > turn!<G> My preferred way is to grip the spoon or > backcheck wire with vise > > grips and THEN use my hammer extracting tool to > extract the part. Most > > usually, the part comes out cleanly and you can > install a new one. > Sometimes > > the hole is a bit over-size, so a dab of epoxy or > CA is used. K? > > Best Regards, > > Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon) > > Captain, Tool Police > > Squares Are I > > No, see, the spoons were wrongly installed on > the wrong side of the > wippen, crossing over the flange screw. Any wippen > flange I tried to > unscrew was hell because the spoon wouldn't clear > the screwdriver. I tried > bending the spoon out of the way and the wippen > split. Then I realized I > should have held it with the parallel pliers while > bending. The spoonless > wippens in the high treble, however, had holes > drilled on the correct side > of the wippen. I don't know why. So I switched the > wippen that broke where > the spoon enters the wood with a "good" one from the > high treble. Getting > the spoon out was no problem -- in fact, it was > already out because it broke > off of the wippen with a little piece of wood. The > wippen was still usable > in the high treble where there are no dampers. But > I had to now install the > spoon into the wippen with the (pre-drilled) hole on > the correct side. > This is in the home. No vise on the workbench. > This is an old piano. > If you just drive a spoon into the hole, the wippen > will split. Well, I > figured it out -- carry a small C-clamp or > machinist's clamp to clamp the > wippen tail on either side so it can't split. > But backchecks that break their threaded portion > of the wire in the > wippen are different. You don't try to extract that > part. You leave it in > and drill a new hole. Then -- same problem as with > the spoon. Ya gotta > clamp it somewhere, or to something, so it's > supported on both sides and > can't split. I guess you have to find someplace you > can clamp it, or carry > a spare block of hardwood, or use your voicing > block, and carry a small > clamp. Then you need a surface you can pound > against while you drive the > new backcheck wire in -- with ViseGrips, I guess -- > is that how it's done, > or is there another way I don't know about? (No > drill press or arbor press > out in the car). I guess the keyslip can be removed > so the keybed can be > used as a "bench", or remove a few keys and use the > hardwood front rail, or > the top of the pinblock if it's not nicely finished. > I ended up doing it after much pondering and > on-the-spot creativity -- > but just wondered what everyone else did. --David > Nereson > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
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