Our Mother has these for sale: http://www.mothergoosetools.com/other_tools/voicing_pliers.shtml Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "ryan sowers" <pianorye@yahoo.com> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Cc: <pianorye@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 2:37 AM Subject: Re: feasable voicing tool modification?? > You have to make them yourself from a pair of mid > sized needle nose vice-grips. Bill Spurlock had a > handout on how to make these. Call him up and buy some > of his cool stuff and he will probably send you the > instructions. > > --- Andrew & Rebeca Anderson <anrebe@zianet.com> > wrote: > > Who sells these? I could use one for a Yamaha with > > quarried hammers. ;-) > > > > Andrew > > At 12:38 PM 7/23/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > >Squeezing the hammers with a pair of 5wr vice-grips > > >modeled after Bill Spurlocks is a very helpfull > > tool > > >in voicing uprights (and grands). > > >--- Dave Nereson <davner@kaosol.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <Alpha88x@aol.com> > > > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:54 AM > > > > Subject: feasable voicing tool modification?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > I got a really good idea! I have > > > > done about 5 hammer carding > > > > & > > > > > needling jobs for customers who own old, old > > > > uprights and I take the > > > > actions > > > > > home to card and do basic deeep shoulder > > needling. > > > > > > > > > > However, when I return the > > action > > > > to the piano, I find I > > > > need > > > > > to custom or individually needle the hammers > > to > > > > tonally match/blend the > > > > > octaves, or rather, make the side by side > > notes > > > > sound homogonous/alike > > > > next to one > > > > > another, blending the sections. > > > > > > > > > > With the action in place, when > > I > > > > attemp this, my voicing > > > > > tool's handle gets in the way and is too big > > to > > > > use in the small space > > > > between the > > > > > hammers and the strings. I don't like the idea > > of > > > > swinging the action back > > > > and > > > > > forth to needle, listen, needle, listen...etc. > > > > > > > > > > The great idea is to dismantle > > the > > > > voicing tool, saw off > > > > the > > > > > 1" or so handle insert thereby having just the > > > > needle (cartridge?) head in > > > > hand > > > > > so that I can work quickly with the upright > > action > > > > in place. Is this a > > > > good > > > > > idea? > > > > > > > > > > Julia Gottchall, > > > > > Reading, PA > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, the Yamaha tool is OK, but not great. > > As > > > > Corte S. said, it's more > > > > for touch-up voicing and surface "sugar coating" > > > > since Yamaha hammers are > > > > usually too hard to be able to get a needle in > > very > > > > far, never mind three of > > > > them. I just have one needle in mine and use it > > to > > > > poke right into the > > > > string grooves. And my knuckles get scraped a > > lot. > > > > But there's nothing > > > > else out there designed for upright hammers that > > I > > > > know of, except the > > > > voicing tool with the pivoting head -- but it > > > > doesn't pivot enough. > > > > Been trying side voicing lately -- see last > > > > month's Journal, I believe. > > > > What I end up doing a lot is taking the > > action > > > > out, laying it on the > > > > carpet, putting a block of wood under the hammer > > > > tails, and stabbing with my > > > > big (Yamaha) voicing tool. Then put it back in > > and > > > > see how much effect it > > > > had. Repeat. Listen. Maybe repeat again, or go > > to > > > > the smaller tool for > > > > touch-up, or use ViseGrips, but ya gotta be real > > > > careful with those-- it's > > > > easy to go too far. It's awkward, working down > > on > > > > the floor on your knees, > > > > but I don't know a better way, unless you bring > > a > > > > long a portable folding > > > > table or something ... > > > > --David Nereson, RPT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > pianotech list info: > > > > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > >Ryan Sowers, RPT Puget Sound Chapter > > >Pianova Piano Service > > >Olympia, WA > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >New and Improved Yahoo! 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