feasable voicing tool modification??

Farrell mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:31:03 -0400


Our Mother has these for sale:
http://www.mothergoosetools.com/other_tools/voicing_pliers.shtml

Terry Farrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ryan sowers" <pianorye@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Cc: <pianorye@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: feasable voicing tool modification??


> You have to make them yourself from a pair of mid
> sized needle nose vice-grips. Bill Spurlock had a
> handout on how to make these. Call him up and buy some
> of his cool stuff and he will probably send you the
> instructions.
>
> --- Andrew & Rebeca Anderson <anrebe@zianet.com>
> wrote:
> > Who sells these?  I could use one for a Yamaha with
> > quarried hammers.  ;-)
> >
> > Andrew
> > At 12:38 PM 7/23/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Squeezing the hammers with a pair of 5wr vice-grips
> > >modeled after Bill Spurlocks is a very helpfull
> > tool
> > >in voicing uprights (and grands).
> > >--- Dave Nereson <davner@kaosol.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Alpha88x@aol.com>
> > > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:54 AM
> > > > Subject: feasable voicing tool modification??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > >              I got a really good idea!  I have
> > > > done about 5 hammer carding
> > > > &
> > > > > needling jobs for customers who own old, old
> > > > uprights and I take the
> > > > actions
> > > > > home to card and do basic deeep shoulder
> > needling.
> > > > >
> > > > >               However, when I return the
> > action
> > > > to the piano, I find I
> > > > need
> > > > > to custom or individually needle the hammers
> > to
> > > > tonally match/blend the
> > > > > octaves, or rather, make the side by side
> > notes
> > > > sound homogonous/alike
> > > > next to one
> > > > > another, blending the sections.
> > > > >
> > > > >                With the action in place, when
> > I
> > > > attemp this, my voicing
> > > > > tool's handle gets in the way and is too big
> > to
> > > > use in the small space
> > > > between the
> > > > > hammers and the strings. I don't like the idea
> > of
> > > > swinging the action back
> > > > and
> > > > > forth to needle, listen, needle, listen...etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >                The great idea is to dismantle
> > the
> > > > voicing tool, saw off
> > > > the
> > > > > 1" or so handle insert thereby having just the
> > > > needle (cartridge?) head in
> > > > hand
> > > > > so that I can work quickly with the upright
> > action
> > > > in place. Is this a
> > > > good
> > > > > idea?
> > > > >
> > > > > Julia Gottchall,
> > > > > Reading, PA
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Yeah, the Yamaha tool is OK, but not great.
> > As
> > > > Corte S. said, it's more
> > > > for touch-up voicing and surface "sugar coating"
> > > > since Yamaha hammers are
> > > > usually too hard to be able to get a needle in
> > very
> > > > far, never mind three of
> > > > them.  I just have one needle in mine and use it
> > to
> > > > poke right into the
> > > > string grooves.  And my knuckles get scraped a
> > lot.
> > > > But there's nothing
> > > > else out there designed for upright hammers that
> > I
> > > > know of, except the
> > > > voicing tool with the pivoting head -- but it
> > > > doesn't pivot enough.
> > > >     Been trying side voicing lately -- see last
> > > > month's Journal, I believe.
> > > >     What I end up doing a lot is taking the
> > action
> > > > out, laying it on the
> > > > carpet, putting a block of wood under the hammer
> > > > tails, and stabbing with my
> > > > big (Yamaha) voicing tool.  Then put it back in
> > and
> > > > see how much effect it
> > > > had.  Repeat. Listen. Maybe repeat again, or go
> > to
> > > > the smaller tool for
> > > > touch-up, or use ViseGrips, but ya gotta be real
> > > > careful with those-- it's
> > > > easy to go too far.  It's awkward, working down
> > on
> > > > the floor on your knees,
> > > > but I don't know a better way, unless you bring
> > a
> > > > long a portable folding
> > > > table or something ...
> > > >     --David Nereson, RPT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >=====
> > >Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
> > >Pianova Piano Service
> > >Olympia, WA
> > >
> > >
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