Vise Grips voicing is not a vice

[ryan sowers]

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You have to make them yourself. I used a combination
of the bench grinder and a dremmel tool. Here's a
picture:


If you don't have any way of making them yourself
email me and perhaps I can be talked into making you a
pair. 

--- Corte Swearingen <cswearingen@daigger.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
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> Where do you find these voicing pliers?  I'm curious
> to see a picture of
> one.  From what I've read, standard vise grip pliers
> are probably not the
> way to go here.
> 
> Corte Swearingen
> Chicago
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> I gotta side with David Love here, and others that
> take this position.
> Hammers that require draconian treatments such as
> pliers-mashing to get
> them soft enough to at all useable are not high
> quality piano hammers to
> begin with. Ok ok... lots of cheapos use such
> hammers... and a mans
> gotta do what a mans gotta do and all that I am
> sure... but decent
> voicing on decent instruments does not involve this
> kind of thing.
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> Cheers
> RicB
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>     I strongly disagree.  Yamahas, Kawais, Young
> Changs, and a few other
> Asians makes are considered decent instruments, yet
> after a few years of
> heavy playing (or even when brand new!), and in dry
> climates, can exhibit
> extremely hard hammers that break strings.  Rather
> than break up and cut
> the
> fibers with sharp needles, which, especially on
> Yamahas, makes them pull
> apart at the crown, I opt for, as someone else put
> it, "deep tissue
> massage".  [Webster's Collegiate:  Draconian --  . .
> . ; barbarously
> severe,
> harsh].  Some of these hammers require severe
> treatment.  I wouldn't
> consider it barbarous or harsh, if that's what it
> takes to be able to get
> them to accept voicing needles.  As I said in
> another post, the Vise Grips
> are for gross, initial hammer softening, not for
> fine concert voicing.
> Steaming can also work if the hammers aren't
> excessively hard, but it
> affects mostly the surface and doesn't loosen up the
> felt deep in the
> shoulders.  I don't believe in stabbing and stabbing
> and pricking and
> poking
> until the fibers are all torn up, there are hundreds
> of prick holes in the
> hammer, and you've got carpal tunnel syndrome and
> tennis elbow.  --David
> Nereson, RPT
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Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
Pianova Piano Service
Olympia, WA


		
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