Voicing the CFlll

[Jerry Cohen]

Ric,

This is just a guess. If the "string noises" can only be heard on the
recording and not with live playing, even in the new smaller location,
perhaps the problem is with the recording equipment, and not the piano.
Perhaps try a slightly further microphone placement.

String noise is similar to slight overload distortions that can easily
occur within a microphone or electronics. Digital electronics is not
very forgiving with even the slightest overload. Just a thought.

Jerry Cohen

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Richard Brekne
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:52 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Voicing the CFlll


As long as we are on the subject matter of voicing critical instruments 
in critical situations it might be good to get into the rest of tone 
building. Phil mentions some sense of distortion at FFF below and of 
course its possible that this has really nothing to do with needling 
hammers..... so.... by way of example maybe you all can offer some good 
advice to the following problem as well.

I have a Steinway C that has been functioning very well indeed in a 
concert location at the University of Bergen and now its been moved into

a studio like room for use as an instructors instrument and recording 
instrument. The acoustics are of course different, but when recorded 
this instrument yields a host of string noises that are not at all 
evident when siting with the instrument either playing or working on it.

After listening to the tape there are several very shortlived but 
obnoxious sounds right at the attack instant on very loud play that need

to be worked out. Some might be phasing problems, some outright string 
buzz... perhaps a bit of just about anything you can name.

Any suggestions as to how to go about cleaning up this pianos tone so 
that even the most sensitive recording situation is satisfied would be 
most appreciated... and might give Phil a few good pointers at the same 
time.

Thanks in advance
RicB









> Phil Bondi wrote:
>
>> I have an opportunity to do some real voicing for a change on a new 
>> CFlll. The instrument in question has a wonderful soul, but no real 
>> voice to speak of..I know that sounds a little 'out there', but 
>> hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say and can offer a 
>> little insight  as to what works and what doesn't.
>>
>> My thinking is to go after it with a touch of steam, a little 
>> needling, and some hardener(lacquer) as needed.
>>
>> "FFF" sounds a bit distorted to me..is that common with this
instrument?
>>
>> Thanks as always,
>>
>> Phil Bondi(Fl)
>>
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