On 11-mei-04, at 22:18, Stéphane Hanriat wrote: > Hello André, > > Can you tell us which part in the notes scale is the best candidate for > battery voicing ? > In other words, is the effectiveness of battery voicing the same for > each > note ? Hello Stephane, The effectiveness of battery voicing works on every hammer which has not been treated with any form of hammer dope. So I mean from hammer no. 1 to hammer no. 88. > > Also, have you already experienced battery voicing on cold pressed > Kawai > hammers ? Yes I have, and as long as they have not been doped, you will find the same effectiveness. > > Groeten, > Stephane > > For instance, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "antares" <antares@euronet.nl> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: explanation of battery voicing/needling > > >> >> On 9-mei-04, at 3:39, John Formsma wrote: >> >>> Saw the term in several posts, think I have a general idea what it >>> is, >>> but must have missed how that term originated. >>> >>> Anyone care to elucidate? >>> >>> John Formsma >>> >> >> By battery voicing we mean going into the base of the hammer to get >> out >> more power. >> In some factories (Bechstein and Bösendorfer) the hammers will be >> pre-voiced in the lowest part, just above the staple. >> Usually 10 stitches will be given there and usually only by beginners. >> This is called pre-voicing, followed by the first real voicing, which >> is a continuation of up-needling. >> In other factories (for instance Steinway and Yamaha), the first >> voicing starts by making a cushion, working upwards from 3 or 9 >> o'clock >> to a 'certain' area under the crown. >> With the regular Yamaha series, there is no other option because of >> the >> stiffness in the lower halve, caused by the impregnation. We just do >> not use this area, it is useless. >> With Steinway (Hamburg) however, the method differs from time to time. >> During my training there they basically used the upper halve only and >> later, maybe, retraced on their steps if the power supply was not >> enough. >> The latter method also has to do with the inconsistency of the hammer >> makers : one set of hammers will give the desired result, the other >> set >> needs more attention. >> The best and safest way in any case is to make your cushion (first >> voicing) working upwards from 3 or 9 o'clock in order to safe the >> remaining power/energy in the battery, the lower halve.This method >> will >> give you the opportunity to make mistakes and restore them later. >> It is also a very safe method to get to know the hammer by making an >> initial voicing pass, and then see what the result is. >> The Yamaha hammers also have a battery, but it is very limited. It >> starts right there where the grey impregnation ends, and the battery >> zone is only 5-10 mm wide, before you get into the cushion/shoulder >> area. >> The battery is a magic place we can use for more power, but also for >> opening up the sound. Some soundboards ask for heavy battery voicing >> because they are high overtone soundboards. >> Bechstein soundboards are like that, and that is why Bechsteins are >> greatest in their mid range and treble. To give a Bechstein a more >> fundamental tone, up-needling or battery voicing is required from the >> start. >> Of course I am talking about non laquered high quality hammers and it >> is a general statement, because all hammers and all piano's need a >> unique treatment. >> Yamaha is probably the only factory where they teach you at the >> Academy >> to 'plot' your voicing course by making either mental notes or making >> chalk marks on the keys, and then do a complete first voicing without >> listening 'on the way', followed by a more refined voicing to even it >> out. >> Of course this is not the case with the hand made instruments made >> there. A complete voicing takes two days, which is normal for these >> kind of instruments. >> >> >> friendly greetings >> from >> André Oorebeek >> >> Amsterdam - >> The Netherlands >> >> 0031-20-6237357 >> 0645-492389 >> 0031-75-6226878 >> www.concertpianoservice.nl >> www.grandpiano.nl >> >> "may the voice be with you" (; >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > friendly greetings from André Oorebeek Amsterdam - The Netherlands 0031-20-6237357 0645-492389 0031-75-6226878 www.concertpianoservice.nl www.grandpiano.nl "where music is, no harm can be"
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