Over sharp treble

[Alan Forsyth]

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Hello all,

Mind you, I've quite often had the situation where my ETD is displaying =
two different readings up in the last octave. I will tune a string and =
as soon as I move my arm away to move the mute the display starts moving =
towards the flat side. When I move my arm back again the pitch rises =
back to it's original position. The ETD is obviously reading a direct =
sound on the one hand and reading a reflected sound on the other. Now =
this begs the question; do our ears pick up the direct sound or the =
reflected sound? This might account for some customers saying that our =
tuning in the high treble is flat when they in fact are listening to the =
reflected sound while we as tuners had tuned it to the direct sound.

AF
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ilex cameron ross=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:34 PM
  Subject: RE: Over sharp treble


  Joe, you are truly a role model in this sense for us tuners as we grow =
up (or listen to too much loud R&R) and lose our ears. I've always felt =
that it's ridiculous in today's day and age for any hearing loss to =
cause poor tuning, between aids and electronic tuners. You also are =
answering my question - whether it's the tuner or humidity causing that =
drastic of a difference.=20

  HEAR HEAR and thx,
  ilex
    -----Original Message-----
    From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On =
Behalf Of Joe Garrett
    Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 2:44 PM
    To: pianotech
    Subject: Re: Over sharp treble


    Hey Guys & Gals,
    Why are you casting dispersions on us olde farts, regarding the =
treble tuning, (and some bass!)? Many times, I follow my own tunings and =
the treble is higher than were I put it! (YES, I keep records of how I =
tune my pianos! AND, I use my trusty SATII, always for the extreme =
treble, because I can't tune it as well aurally!) For those who know me, =
I have hearing aids. I can hear the frequencies up there, thanks to =
those aids. However, aids will give you weird stuff, from time to time. =
(Oft-times due to a low battery or a lot of other physical stuff, that I =
don't care to discuss, right now.)
    Humidity changes, GREATLY affect the upper treble. Sometimes, more =
than you think it should. Why? Don't have a clue! It just does. Of =
course, there are those olde farts, that have a HUGE ego thing going, =
regarding their tunings and they refuse to do anything about it. Those =
clowns deserve a HUGE SLAP up'side their damned heads!! I've followed =
YOUNG tuners that tune WAYYYY too sharp for my taste. And, screwed up =
Bass tuning as well, from them.
    If any of you think that you are not hearing things as well as you'd =
like....GET YOUR DAMNED EARS CHECKED!!!!! AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR!!!!!!  NO =
DAMNED EXCUSES!!!! WE DO MAKE OUR LIVING WITH OUR EARS!!!! GET IT??????? =

    Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
    Captain, Tool Police
    Squares R I
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