The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)

Michael Gamble michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk
Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:43:14 +0100


Hello Dean and List
I have never seen a hitch pin with a relief before. What piano uses this? I 
can forsee awful problems removing a string which terminates in a single 
tight loop. Excellent photo.
Regards
Michael G.(UK)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean May" <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com>
To: <files@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)


>
> I love Arledge strings. Most of my work is done on middle of the road to
> low end pianos and they sound great. Much more consistent than I was
> getting from Mapes. When I used Mapes I would get sections that did not
> sound good. Was it voicing, dead area of the soundboard or bad strings?
> Who knows. Once I asked them to remake a section which they did and I
> got some improvement. I've never had to do that with Arledge.
>
> At the Indy convention last October Del spoke about reducing the size of
> the loops and getting them up off the plate to add flexibility in the
> backscale. Attached is a link to a picture of a Walters grand that was
> there showing off an unusual hitch pin Del likes to use.
>
> The next set of strings I ordered from Arledge I tried to get the
> shorter loop and they said they really couldn't do it. Has that changed?
> I want a set with the "Jolly" loops. ;-)
>
> I haven't tried the unusual pins. But I did try sticking a thin washer
> under the loops of one set to get the strings off the plate. It worked.
> Hard to tell how much improvement it actually made.
>
> Dean
>
> Photo at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/62yu8
>
> Direct ptg.org URL:
>
> https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/ab/cb/d5/06/DSCF6402.JPG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of Roger Jolly
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:26 PM
> To: files@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)
>
>
> At 08:46 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote:
>
>> I did try a set of Arledge strings with the “Jolly Loop”. S&S model
>> O. While the piano also had a new soundboard with a modified bass
>> bridge which shortened the cantilever and extended the backscale a
>> bit, not to mention recalculated bass scale (thank you Del Fandrich),
>
>> the bass quality on this instrument was exceptional.
>>
>
>
>   Hi David,
>   Including photo to answer the curious. Theoretical
>
> increase in back scale length, to improve bass bridge response.
>
>   Regards Roger
>
>
>
> Photo at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4ydys
>
> Direct ptg.org URL:
>
> https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/0b/0d/04/aa/
> Jollybassloop.JPG
>
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